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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 months ago (6 children)

If you science in a lab and no one is around to review it did you make a science?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

well it still goes back to the original arguement that it has to be published and reproducible.

else it would be forgotten and re-discovered again at a later stage.

some scientific discoveries of the mordern era were actually discovered by earlier ancient people before mordern science started recording such discoveries.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Couldn't science papers be hosted on a git-platform for review? Instead of costly publishing and the reviewers have to buy it then...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Hm, for a good peer-review process you would still need a way to anonymously distribute to experts in the same field and orchestrate the whole review/editing process. You could obviously try to come up with a better review process but I don't know how you would do it on a git-platform. How would you prevent trolling or other forms of destructive comments for example? How would you ensure that other people in the field can comment without having to fear repercussions for an honest and negative review.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

There are open access platform that is more reputable than git, like arxiv or hal.

Plus most conferences, at least in my field, support open access. But unfortunately for some of them, you do need to pay a fee in order to get the article to be open-access.

The prestige of the conference/journal is still the best way to get your article known, so that others can review and built upon your work, as of now.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Science devolved into politics. :-(

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I find it especially amusing that in my Lemmy feed the post right before this one is a quote from a book by a Nobel laureate talking about the importance of self-marketing, politicking and ladder climbing in academia. You know, all the stuff that isn't science that plays a part in what Yann LeCun considers to play a vital role in what counts as science.

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

What the fuck is LeCum thinking about? I work in academia and I couldn't give a shit about being remembered, I just want to live to fight another day like the next guy.

This feels like billionaire banter.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 months ago (4 children)

There are differences between "experimenting", "research", "analysis" and "science". You can do the first three at your home, scribbling some notes that no one will ever read or know about, but science, in its hard definition, is a methodology that requires the specific dynamics that are expected of the scientific community, where plenty of people check each other's work for faults, blind spots, biases, lazy interpretations and so on.

This is fundamental because everyone, including universally recognized geniuses, do sometimes fuck up. Have you heard of Einstein's famous phrase "God does not play dice with the universe"? This refers to his conviction that the laws of physics were fundamentally deterministic, which was put in question by the early experiments that were opening the way for quantum physics. Einstein found himself at odds with a new generation of physicists that weren't as inflexible as he was on this issue, and whenever there were indications that extremely small particles may behave in a non-deterministic way, Einstein would argue and push for the most hostile interpretation possible, which did lead other physicists to put his interpretations to the test, which did ironically further prove the non-deterministic pillars of quantum physics.

Science is necessarily a social endeavor because it is meant to help us overcome the fact that each individual human is doomed to be, sooner or later, at one specific issue of many, an inflexible idiot.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

This refers to his conviction that the laws of physics were fundamentally deterministic

What was the bit about quantum mechanics yesterday? "Embrace the chaos and you start to see a pattern."

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Btw his bio is:

  • Professor at NYU
  • Chief AI Scientist at Meta
  • ACM Turing Award Laurete
[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 months ago

Yeah he's a legend in CS... Muskrat just further rides himself into being the fool of centuries

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