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Italian media has said that the pope used a highly derogatory slur against LGBTQ+ people at a bishops conference. The remark may sour attempts by the pope to make the church more welcoming.

Pope Francis allegedly used a highly offensive term to refer to LGBTQ+ people during a closed-door meeting with Italian bishops, Italian media reported on Tuesday.

The major Italian daily newspapers La Repubblica and Corriere della Sera both cited anonymous sources as saying that the pope had made the remark while reiterating his position against gay people becoming priests.

The 87-year-old pontiff was reported as saying that the Catholic seminaries were already too full of "frociaggine" — a highly derogatory term in Italian.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (10 children)

For those wondering, the word can be roughly translated in english as ::: spoiler Faggotry :::

Esit: can't figure out how to mark something as spoiler correctly

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 5 months ago (11 children)

Former Catholic, now atheist. I’m glad the Pope is making some progressive steps in the Catholic Church including the LGTBQ+ community.

I hope this was a misstep, and the case of a 90-year old man from a different country using language that he was not aware is a slur. I really really hope that, or else all that good will was for nothing.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago

Don't hold out hope

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Intentional? Or old man being old?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago (3 children)

The dude is ancient; half his vocabulary as a child is probably a slur by this point.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (6 children)

This is something more people need to remember.

The level of casual racism and sexism in the past is staggering when looked at from today, but was no big deal at the time.

"Mr. Mom" a movie about the insane idea of having a man doing childcare, came out in 1983.

"Fu Manchu" with Peter Sellers doing yellowface came out in 1980.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

For context the gap between "Mr. Mom" and The Dark Knight is 25 years. The gap between The Mummy and today is 25 years.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

There's this saying “a fish is caught through its mouth,” and this is an illustration of what it means. This pope might present this ‘cool’, ‘modern’ image to the public, but his words spoken in private amongst his peers reveals his real stance about these things.


Edit:‌ proofreading.

[–] [email protected] 126 points 5 months ago

It's interesting that we have documented cases of homosexuality in thousands of different species, and yet not a single other species that practices Catholicism.

Being gay is more natural than being Catholic.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But I guarantee people will still call him "Cool Pope."

It's all been an act.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (3 children)

He is the "cool pope"... when compared the literal Nazi one before him or the sexual predator protecting one before that. They are all horrible, this one happens to be the least horrible in a long time...possibly ever. Less horrible is still horrible.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's like saying Kim Jong-Un is the "Cool North Korean Dictator." It really doesn't mean much.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago
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