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Pope uses homophobic slur in meeting with bishops — reports (www.dw.com)

submitted 3 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Italian media has said that the pope used a highly derogatory slur against LGBTQ+ people at a bishops conference. The remark may sour attempts by the pope to make the church more welcoming.

Pope Francis allegedly used a highly offensive term to refer to LGBTQ+ people during a closed-door meeting with Italian bishops, Italian media reported on Tuesday.

The major Italian daily newspapers La Repubblica and Corriere della Sera both cited anonymous sources as saying that the pope had made the remark while reiterating his position against gay people becoming priests.

The 87-year-old pontiff was reported as saying that the Catholic seminaries were already too full of "frociaggine" — a highly derogatory term in Italian.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

FUCK THE POPE, the old geriatric fuck.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Few things, 1 He has done a lot for the LGBTQ community when it comes to the church ( allows the community to be blessed in church, supporting them to join the church).

2 I'm sure these was released by a "concerned" bishop instead of someone pissed at him.

3 Fuck all religion but the leaders need to follow his public example and support the LGBTQ community. Instead they stoke the flames. Be as rasicts, homophobic, or whatever as you want in your private life, I dont give 2 fucks. This coming from someone that looks white but is mix and grew up in Tennessee. Its when they try and push their shit on everyone else that i have an issue.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

wow he's so great, he let's LGBTQ people exist in the church's vicinity.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

He could be calling for their deaths or blaming them for everything. Progress is done by small changes not massive changes. Is he still shitty, yes. Is he better than most other popes, yes.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The woke pope ain't that woke

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

well, compared to the last hitler youth....

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

Did Popey Mc Pope get all fatty Mc fat? Too much pasta me thinks

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

This really isnt any different than Grandpa calling the cashier at the Piggly Wiggly a 'colored'.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

I heard many bishops were offended and took it as a personal attack.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I see no problem in our current strategy of letting senile old people run the world....

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

So, instead of saying, "Catholic seminaries were already too full of [bundle of sticks]" instead he meant to say that "Catholic seminaries were already too full of homosexuals". I'm not sure fixing the one word helps his message or is actually even the problem.

The term he used is being censored on here so I used a substitute.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

The leader of an oppressive organized religion? Using slurs? Say it ain't so!

[+] [email protected] 39 points 3 months ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Italian isn’t his first language, so it’s possible, but I’m not giving him the benefit of the doubt.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

That specific word in Italian has multiple meanings, one of which being something like "excessive/useless detail or addition, especially when done for the cool factor only" and another being "gayness".

Without the full context of the sentence, it's very hard to say what he meant or what he was saying.

Of course the word is still originating from the slur and shouldn't be used by the pope, but it's technically possible that wasn't even used in relation to any minority (just as much as the opposite)

Unless I missed some extra info or source that has the full context, it's hard to say

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

All things considered, I am. He’s old, Italian isn’t his first language, and he has a history of progressive changes in favor of the lgbtq+ community. I’m more inclined to believe it was a mistake than to think it was intentional or malicious. Especially given how quickly an apology has been issued.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

the pope had made the remark while reiterating his position against gay people becoming priests.

It doesn't matter what word he used, he was using it in an anti LGBT sentiment.

The 87-year-old pontiff was reported as saying that the Catholic seminaries were already too full of .. gay men.

Here, I removed the slur. This isn't any better. Italian fluency wasn't the problem and didn't change his argument.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It doesn’t matter what word he used, he was using it in an anti LGBT sentiment.

i think it does matter wrt what he actually said or intended to say. whether he's being homophobic in his position regard gay clergy isn't a matter of debate: he is.

the issue is that he claims not to have intended to use an offensive term, and apologizes for the offense cause by the term. That i'm willing to believe. i'm not debating his gay clergy policy, which i obviously agree is bigoted.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

You're right, it's very likely he wasn't intending to use a slur. But it seems to me like a lot of the reporting is "he didn't mean to disrespect people!" when that's not the case. The pope's intentions were absolutely to disrespect people, just by his actions, and not by that specific word. the specific phrasing he used to do so doesn't really matter.

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