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If you cannot pass on your ownership rights to your purchased games to your children, then you cannot pass on your copyright either, I guess?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Fine just create a digital corporation of your identity and assign rights to that instead. I hear they have the same rights as people.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

Valve needs to be forced to allow customers to sell and trade their digital games

[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing

(keep a copy of mr. goldburg)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It is worth noting here that Valve recently announced a new feature that allows Steam users to share games with their friends and family. Dubbed "Steam Families,"

New? That exists for years Oo. Or what am I missing here?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Previously, if you shared your library and someone else was playing any game, they would get ejected from said game and be unable to play any other game, as soon as you started to play any game whatsoever.

This made it more or less useless.

Now they changed it to where you can only play the same game as many times as your family collectively owns it. So, if your family member plays a game you only have a single copy of, they can keep doing so, until you start that exact game. You may still need to activate the client beta for this, but it'll be active for everyone eventually. (Don't know if it is yet, as I'm using the beta)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

They made it useable (see the wan show on it a cople weeks ago)

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What's a steam account and why would i want one?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It's the biggest video game marketplace/launcher/DRM makers for PC. If you play video games on PC most games you buy would probably have to be through steam. Their parent company, Valve, is the only multi-billion dollar company I like because so far they have stayed pro-consumer.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (4 children)

😂 this platform continues to make me laugh. Everybody worships steam but somehow all other businesses are bad.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yes as a long time PC gamer, I don't understand why people act as if steam and valve are gods. Like ok cool it has the most games and whatever, but they've been going downhill. There's so many random asset flips and porn games now, and their sales have been shit for years now. I remember games going on sale for 90% off during seasonal sales, and all the % off coupons they'd just randomly give out. That never happens now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Exactly. This is why I buy grey market steam game codes for games now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Steam has mostly fixed the "service" issue compared to something like streaming services. One place to get almost any and all games. One account to access it all. Very simple for the end user. And does a load for the community as well. Take a look at proton for a example.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah also billionaires are literally satan but Gabe Newell gets a pass for some reason lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Lol yep. They used to think the same way about Elon musk until he bought Twitter and started speaking his mind. Same with the orange man. They all loved him and then one day the software update went out and it was instant hate.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Treat people well, and people will like you.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Which explain why game piracy stay pretty low too. Valve with steam provide a great service

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

That's okay, I plan to be reincarnated.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

You typically don't get "ownership rights" when you purchase a game on Steam. You'll typically be purchasing a licence to play the game, which could be taken away at any point. Some Steam games don't include DRM after installation, and you'll truly own those games after downloading them. (you can search for a game here, and find the DRM used) I'd recommend avoiding purchasing games on Steam whenever DRM is included if you want to own the game you'd buy, there are a lot of online stores that sell games without DRM.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You typically don’t get “ownership rights” when you purchase a game on Steam. You’ll typically be purchasing a licence to play the game, which could be taken away at any point.

That is certainly what Valve thinks and writes in their TOS but if their store has a big button that says "BUY HALO" then courts may very well decide that you actually bought Halo.
And many countries have a strict legal definition of what buying means that cannot be overruled by some company's TOS.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's why the button says "purchase" instead of "buy" it's been a bit since I used Steam, so I had to check to be sure. I think there's a legal loophole there, but I'm not great with English.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

That’s why the button says “purchase” instead of “buy”

First off, they're synonyms
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/purchase#synonyms

Now, I'm certainly no expert on the US legal system. It certainly seems silly if you could circumvent entire laws just by using synonyms but what do I know.
However I have been talking about other countries where that is not the case and where the language is not English.
So It really doesn't matter whether it say "buy" or "purchase" in English when it's "kaufen" in German or "acheter" in French.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Can same game be with DRM on steam and without DRM on other platform.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yes, happens all the time on gog. They don't have the same library of games but there is an overlap.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

If the game is DRM free on GOG it usually only has the Steamworks DRM on steam. That one is so easy to remove that you might aswell call it DRM free since its only use is to make publishers think their game is protected.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Yes. In those cases the steam DRM is usually for achievements, friend joining, and checking that it was run via steam.

There are plenty of "steam emulators" or even patchers that remove the steam DRM.

So as long as you have the files applications such as SteamEMU and Steamless are godsends in ensuring that when you "buy" a game you will still be able to play it.

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