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Showerthoughts

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A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The best ones are thoughts that many people can relate to and they find something funny or interesting in regular stuff.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I like the idea that the Great Filter is really just civilizations turning inward. Like they all get to a point where they realize that space travel is just really not viable and so they stop looking to explore the universe or find other life. Instead they turn to virtual worlds to prolong their existence with what resources they have available in their own star systems. Not even Dyson spheres or anything, they just go into digital hibernation and live out the rest of their lifetimes in a fabricated paradise for however long they can. Maybe they're able to use drugs/genetics/whatever to slow time down to a crawl where it feels like they live thousands of years within a normal lifespan.

For Outer Wilds fans, basically:

spoilerOwlks

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Then we would start 'behavorial sink' and slowly decline in population. Someone else mentioned Calhoun and his rat utopia the other day and I looked it up. It seems like we are going through our version of behavioral sink.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Like uploads? If so, couldn't they have all this fun while slowly traveling the universe?

"We're sorry to interrupt everyone's simulation, but we're happy to remind you that you're a person on a spaceship and we just found something interesting!"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I didn't understand the question. What is a "great filter"?

No BS, seriously don't know and want to.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

https://youtu.be/UjtOGPJ0URM

This covers it pretty well.

If you want a very short version: a hypothetical eventuality in the technological advancement of intelligent life, as to limit their existence.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't think that's an "if" at all. I firmly believe that that's exactly it.

The same behaviours that we needed to evolve are harmful now that we've reached a potential "post-scarcity" stage.

To put it more bluntly, the drive to compete for resources in order to survive is what made us the dominant species. Now that post-scarcity is essentially upon us, our nature is to create artificial scarcity in order to satiate that drive for competition. And it will be the ultimate end of us.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

These are pretty much the thoughts I had.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago

Maybe the great filter was the friends we made along the way?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So like, we all just give up as a species? Sounds unlikely.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Think of Star Trek as an analogy.

  • The Archers, Pikes, Kirks succeeded by being bold and daring, confronting dangers, fighting to survive. The Siskos and Burnhams instigated war on a galactic scale. They were violent, reactive, risk takers
  • a couple centuries later, the Picards confronted greater obstacles but with reason, compassion, self-sacrifice. If Kirk had faced Q, that would have been the great filter, but Picard succeeded as a human evolved past his violent reactions
[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I've never watched Star Trek.

I know, heresy for lemmy.

I also use windows and not linux (though I plan on switching when I get time to learn linux)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Wow, it’s like talking to an Alien ….. while I do occasionally use Windows, my main laptop is OSX, my home servers are Raspian and Suse and at work I use Red Hat, Debian and whatever Amazon Linux is, and my media consumption is Linux or iOS

[–] [email protected] -5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I mean there are multiple proposed filters.

Suppose yours is correct. What is this humanity's nature you speak of?

Bravery? Foolishness? Wisdom? Violence? Greed?

What what of those attributes haven't we already overcome time and again?

It's much more probable that everyone out there is attentively listening to signals instead of radically changing their own mental processes. Or not

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Wtf kinda world are you living in where humanity has overcome foolishness, violence, and greed?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

I mean same as yours I hope? People do that daily, hope you grow to notice it. It's nice when you do

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I think they meant for five minutes because if you won, you won right?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago

Sounds like little but it's a lot and it compounds

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Exactly. Everyone thought nuclear war might be one of the great filters but we survived the Cold War. Nuclear weapons are no longer a concern, right? Right?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago

I mean I don't see people practice nuclear drills anymore so yeah

[–] [email protected] 51 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Maybe the great filter is the misuse of apostrophes?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Maybe the great filter is crabs dragging others down to their level.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Even at loss of limb, those who escape are the 144000, sent to show others the way?

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