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Pretty much in the title. Maybe you wouldn't even use it, but would like to simply see it exist for the sake of having a federated alternative.

For me, it'd be the following:

  • LinkedIn
  • Meetup
  • Tiktok

I am on the first two, but would prefer a federated alternative. I'm not on Tiktok, but would like to see a federated alternative.

I'll admit these might not be a good idea. But as a thought experiment, I'd be curious about the community weigh in on what you all think this might look like.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (7 children)

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Keep the fediverse weird and invite more theater kids. They pair surprisingly well with the tech dorks that make up the majority of the current fedi population.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

There is already a Meetup alternative - Mobilizon

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Thank you so much. Have you used it? Care to expand on uour experience with it?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

“Tiny knowledge projects”: https://observablehq.com/@jsomers/we-need-more-tiny-knowledge-projects-heres-one

Something like a decentralised dynamic web page like the one linked would be cool. But generally, stuff that’s more like “web gardens” where people can build “places” rather than feeds. Wikis being the best known successful example but still somewhat simple (in a good way).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Wattpad, tho it’s not a social media

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

This is by no means a vital service, but Imgur. Not the image hosting part itself, although the multiple self-hosted alternatives available are mostly aimed at photographs and surprisingly very few if any to memes and reactions for chats, forums and social media. On the other hand, the particular use case of sharing memes and meme dumps is not being fulfilled by anything else at the moment. Go to Imgur even on it's current sorry decayed state and at any time you'll find multiple people sharing image galleries, usually of up to 50 memes at a time, sometimes more. Lemmy, Mastodon and Discord servers try to fill that gap but right now they can't.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (5 children)

I would like to see something that is less focussed on social media and more on building something together like Wikipedia. One thing that comes to mind would be mapping out all political statements along with arguments and evidence to support or falsify them and the relationships between them (e.g. "if you believe x is a big problem in society and you believe y is the perfect form of government then you must believe y solves x").

A lot of our political discussions seem quite repetitive and go in circles because each argument is presented in a very shallow way. Something to counteract that would be welcome and I think it could work quite well in a federated way since people with different political views would probably want to contribute the supporting and that falsifying sides for each statement.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

That would go to shit immediately. The sheer level of moderation that would be required to prevent that from being abused and corrupted would be insane, and then that kind of moderation would in turn invalidate the whole project because the moderation itself would have its own biases.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Like, one of those sites where you rate the hotness

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Well, I'd for one like to see something new. Not just another clone of an existing platform, since I don't really love any of the social media platforms. I'd like something that simultaneously connects me with friends and people all around the world. With communities like here, just more focused on positive and constructive engagement regarding different topics. Less picking on the news and less just replying if there's something wrong with what somebody said. I'd like to explore some means of democratic engagement. For example electing moderators. Maybe vote on rules instead of transferring power just by choosing instances wisely. And I'd like to do away with the current way of upvoting. It sometimes encourages herd mentality instead of good answers. I'd also like to incorporate blogging longer and well reasoned texts, microblogging and sharing pictures. Both silly memes but also vacation pictures with my friends. I think the concept of friend circles is good, You could choose who gets to see what aspect from your life. And something that's entirely missing is selling used stuff in the neighborhood. Something like craigslist. You could also combine that with local news and connecting the neighborhood, not just discuss world politics all the time.

I think there is much potential for an enticing platform if we think big and use the concept of federation to our advantage, apply it to use-cases and concepts that haven't yet been explored by the big commercial platforms. We have to do away with the urge of re-creating something to make it possible. And it'd be hard to come up with good concepts to foster good behaviour and solve the technical aspects. But at the same time it'd allow us break free from the constraints of what's already there and just be a smaller alternative to XY.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Friendica provides blogging, microblogging, pictures, friend circles (but they work only for Friendica users), and multiple identities managed by single login.

And there is a fediverse marketplace software - Flohmarkt - instances

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

commune is a semi unique fedderated social media

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Love the illustration on their home page. Looks like a very new project.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I've had this idea where instead of a moderator having dominion over a community, their removals only work for people subscribed to that moderator specifically. We can make moderator actions work the way block lists do in ublock origin!

Of course admin action would still be necessary for curbing high volume spammers and illegal stuff.

I'd just like to see how things are when the conversation isn't one way ruled by moderators who want their own ideals to seem like the norm. I'm not interested in tone policing and the like.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago

Tiktok Youtube (there is peertube but it's not as popular as YouTube)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't feel like Twitch / livestreaming is well-supported yet (OwnCast is sort of a different approach to it)

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Letterboxed - an app like bookwyrm, but for movies. I've seen other people talk about it and I think some people are working on it, but AFAIK nothing is up atm

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Trakt would be good also and it covers film and TV.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Tiktok

The problem with video content (even short videos) is, that it generates an absurd amount of traffic and needs lots and lots of local data storage. This is also why there are so few PeerTube instances.

PeerTube would be a way to publish your short clips, too. Not as specialized as TikTok, but still ...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

There are hosting providers that offer unmetered bandwidth.

Sure, setup complexity is higher, but it is definitely doable.

I have thought about such a project as I also have access to relatively inexpensive 20gbps fiber, but lack the funding currently to do it.

Maybe one day…

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

Also tiktok really only makes sense with a big algorithm knowing what users want to see. Even if you were to follow many people, with the average video being only about 30 seconds long you won't have much content to enjoy. The whole short form video thing is kinda built on knowing what your user likes and doesn't. I don't know how you could design such a platform without some privacy concerns.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Yeah the data is an issue for sure. I wonder if torrents of some kind would help making it more doable, where viewers (on computers, not phones) build up a cache from which they also seed. Like Spotify did when they started out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZeroNet

Something similar to this might help disburse the load required for peertube. What sites you read you host in return, very much like with bit torrent with a presentation layer tacked on top.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

I think you are looking for something like ipfs.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

A video platform would be great. Like TikTok, or stories from Facebook, Insta or YT.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

YouTube already has that, it's called PeerTube.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

PeerTube has standard videos, but not the Stories part if I’m lot mistaken.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

That's why I said YouTube, not the other stuff.

Then again, nothing is preventing you from uploading shirt videos to PeerTube as well.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago

Good thing shorts and stories are dumb

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