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This is half a decade old news, but I only found this out myself after it accidentally came up in conversation at the DMV. The worker would not have informed me if it hadn't come into conversation. Every DMV photo in the United States is being used for AI facial recognition, and nobody has talked about it for years. This is especially concerning given that citizens are recently being required to update their ID to a "Real ID," which means more people than ever before are giving away the rights to their own face.

The biggest problem with privacy issues is that people talk about it for a while, but more often than not nothing ever happens to fix the problem, it simply gets forgotten. For example, in the next few years Copilot will simply become a part of people's lives, and people will slowly stop talking about the privacy implications. What can we even do to fight the privacy practices of giants?

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I kind of mentally prepared for it when I got my ID. Not only that but they also fingerprint your right thumb.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just renewed my ID on Friday and I went for the Real ID. No fingerprinting. So it must differ by state.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Interesting. I'm in California

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago (4 children)

What can we even do to fight the privacy practices of giants?

Not much unless you're a billionaire or a politician.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Or you’re willing to immolate a billionaire or a politician, as long as it’s a sincerely held religious belief.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

How about a guillotine? Those don't seem to require a religious belief, only a modicum of trust in the well-studied force of gravity.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're going to set them on fire?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

~~Abso-fucking-lutely.~~ I mean, no, not me personally.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ok well I wouldn't really recommend saying as much on the internet...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Good point, let me fix that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Donate to eff, aclu, and other privacy organizations.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I mean it's not nothing but it's close

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They're literally lobbiests and have a track record of forcing the government to make great changes for the people

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They're literally lobbiests

Huh?

have a track record of forcing the government to make great changes

And yet here we are...constantly sliding downhill, regardless...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The EFF and ACLU employ a number of people, and some of those people exist to lobby the government to not make dumb laws.

Politicians don't understand technology, so they need lobbiests to explain to them how legislation could be bad for people from a technical perspective

When you fund the EFF, you get lobbiests on your behalf going to legislators to fix broken legislation. And lobbyists going to legislators to write good legislation to protect our rights.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm very aware of all of this, and none of it contradicts my statement.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I was answering your question: Huh?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Please tell me something I don't already know.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's better than not doing anything.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure it is. Feels like a waste of money. People don't care. Politicians don't care. In fact they greatly benefit from the erosion of privacy.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

ACLU has done a lot of good. For instance, their lawyers have fought to not give up Signal users' information in court cases.

https://signal.org/bigbrother/

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago

ACLU has done a lot of good

I don't doubt it, but at the end of the day it's a drop in the bucket vs. the wide variety of increasingly exploitative platforms that people continue to use.

The government doesn't even need surveillance, they just demand it from corporations with data that users knowingly and willingly volunteer to them, to the extent that you can't even participate in society without subjecting yourself to those same invasive and exploitative platforms.

their lawyers have fought to not give up Signal users' information

What information? How can they give information they don't have?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I don't think Billionaires even get an exception. It actually might be worse for them in some ways.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

I meant that they hold the resources and the influence necessary to change society.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What? They can just buy a private island

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Or lobby so their private planes are untrackable.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Jokes on them, they made me take off my glasses that hide aspects of my wonky face but I wear glasses 100% of the time out in the world. You'll never catch me, copper!

(I know. I just like to think it can't figure out crooked nose vs glasses. )

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Paint your face in weird shapes and colors and tell them its a tattoo.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Perhaps henna

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Better yet, just get a tattoo of weird shapes on your face Give yourself a third eye and a sideways mouth.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Qr code to rickroll tattoo

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 months ago (1 children)

nobody has talked about it for years

March 2024: https://www.9news.com/article/news/investigations/police-use-colorado-dmv-facial-recognition-program/73-0c2d862c-a33c-4598-bc0a-e0d1a8ee287f

There are rumblings here in CO about curtailing law enforcement's use of this database. I personally would like to have subpoena protection of the database, so at least it has to go before a judge before the cops just rifle through everyone's pictures.

This is especially concerning given that citizens are recently being required to update their ID to a “Real ID,” which means more people than ever before are giving away the rights to their own face.

lol, no. Real ID is just a set of requirements the federal govt. has implemented to make sure state IDs are held to the same standard as passports re: data integrity and information presented. That's all. Not mark of the beast, not something nefarious to track you more than your old state-issued DL did in the past. As far as "recently"? Nope, states have had 20 years.

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