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Disco Inferno (lemmy.world)
submitted 5 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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I was told recently about a school that was shamed into changing its school motto.

The motto was "l hear, I see, I learn" Nothing wrong with that per se. Unfortunately the motto was in Latin, and the Latin for "l hear, I see, I learn" is "audio, video, disco

wonderfulworldofmichaelford Obserwuj

What the f ck that's the best school motto ever change it back

copperbadge Obserwuj

Your yearly reminder that "l learn through suffering" can be translated into Latin as "Disco Inferno"

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

If anyone is curious, "disco" comes into English from the french loan word discothèque, originally from greek δισκος (diskos, as in discus throw, a disk) + θήκη (thiki, originally case or chest but here it means "house"). So a "house of discs" in the same way a "bibliothèque" is a house of books. The Latin meaning is a happy coincidence. That being said, I sincerely hope someone is working on a disco musical adaptation of Dantes Inferno.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Ah, Revachol middle school

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

disco~~ver~~

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

As a Finn I never miss an opportunity to use per se in a sentence. Especially in formal occasions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

As a Finn per se, or just as a Finn incidentally?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

pylly

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

pyl ly if you aim to be courteous.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

https://youtu.be/u5lSeYd_riw

I feel like I'm the only person here willing to make the hard choices!

[–] [email protected] 48 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I don't think this is accurate, but it's pretty funny.

edit: to clarify, I meant I don't think the Google translation is accurate. But it sounds like the OP translation is not totally accurate either.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Google translate sucks at Latin... Discō is in no way "I am going." It could be translated as "I am learning (by means of, regarding, in some way relating to) hell/"The Inferno" (which could be taken symbolically as torture)." So yeah, they're stretching the grammar a bit, although I've seen worse in Cicero. A less poetic translation would be "Per dolorem disco," but that's nowhere near as funny to say aloud...

Source: 4 years of Henle Latin plus two years prior of grammar and vocabulary.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As a Latin teacher I can back up your assessment; well done! And 100% agree on Cicero, especially his private letters.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Since it's rare to come across Latin teachers in the wild. I had Latin for four years and don't remember most of it but wasn't bad at it either I guess. How should I approach refreshing my knowledge and are there communities for like minded people who would like to help someone out?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Sadly I haven't seen any active communities here on Lemmy; Reddit has/had one (I haven't checked in on them in a long while though). As to what resources you would need for a refresher, I'd recommend something like Wheelock's Latin Reader, which is full of adapted and original texts to get you some practice. As to the grammar side of things, either a formal reference grammar like Allen and Greenough's or Bennet's. If you want something more structured, I'd recommend a collegiate textbook, such as A New Latin Primer (I use this with both my collegiate and (upper-level) high school students). Lastly, if you'd like some bite-sized refreshers on specific topics, Latin Tutorial on Youtube is a good resource. Hope that helps! Edit: Turns out Bennet's grammar is available at the Latin Library: https://www.thelatinlibrary.com/bennett.html

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Wow, thank you very much! Now I just hope that I can keep up the motivation!

But if I may ask, what got you into teaching Latin? From my limited point of view there are not many people really into it and most of the time it's a requirement for other fields.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I started taking Latin in college and got immersed in it and other languages, it stimulates the analytical side of my brain quite nicely. I ended up getting a degree in Classical Studies, then looped back and got my teaching credentials when grad school admissions in my field got bombed into oblivion by the crash in '08.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Thanks for the knowledgeable insight!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Maybe in a literal sense, sure. But I believe it’s more of a nuanced way of saying “I learn through suffering”. Similar in nature to how people use words like bad or hot or rizz to mean something that’s essentially good, while none of those words mean something good/positive (ignoring the fact that rizz didn’t exist until recently).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Yes, and Google Translate is a huge red flag as well. Having taken six years of Latin in school I can confidently say that Google will lie to your face. Discō does not mean "I go / am going" (eō would be more appropriate). It directly means "I am learning" with "hell" in the ablative case, so it's assumed to mean "I'm learning (through / by means of) hell / Inferno." So it's very poetic, but the given translation of "I am learning by way of hellfire (torture)" certainly works. I've seen stranger from Cicero...

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago

"Immolate, infant, immolate."

[–] [email protected] 53 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Just put a cross as the school logo and we are set:

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

they had to change the motto because it got too cumbersome to set up the drum machines when they wanted to say AUDIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO [synth riffage] VIIIDEO DISCOOOOOOOOOO

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

SHIIIIIIIIZA

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Is that a Justice album cover?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago

Yes; the name of the album is actually audio video disco; thats how i remembered about it

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago

Specifically the album "audio video disco"

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