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[–] [email protected] 58 points 3 months ago (6 children)

You Chrome folks need extensions to use non-Google search engines?

Firefox uses just bog standard OpenSearch definitions. No shenanigans. Ships with both Google and Bing if you're into that sort of things. And you can add arbitrary search URLs, no probalo.

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 3 months ago

Gross
But considering the current state of Google search, not as gross as it was.

[–] [email protected] 96 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I thought we were past the age of toolbar spam

[–] [email protected] 57 points 3 months ago

It never went away, just the degree of desperation has changed

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Apart from the search engines being both shitty, here there's nothing wrong

If you installed an extension to use bing search, what you want is to use bing search, not Google. So of course the extension has to say "don't switch"

There's also a good point on chrome's side. There's extensions that will switch your default search engine without your consent, so having the possibility to undo directly is nice.

Another way to see it, would be to switch chrome for firefox, Google search for duck duck go, and bing to qwant. Same story, but no shitty companies clouding judgements

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

But microsoft install that for you without consent, according to other comment on lemmy.

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[–] [email protected] 126 points 3 months ago (2 children)

This isn't funny, this is just the sad state of software these days.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's honestly incredible that Bing even still exists, much less is still being actively being pushed by M$

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Bing is the default engine in Edge which is the default browser on Windows. There’s a huuuge demographic who doesn’t care enough to change either of those.

Also, Bing profits from other search engines using their results as a base. DuckDuckGo, for example, uses Bing as their primary source for search results. And in my experience is better at it than google, these days.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I've personally moved to Bing from Google. Partly because it's annoyingly the only way to do web searches from the start menu, But also because it's much more flexible with AI compared to Google's new AI Overviews (The engines vice president actually tweeted about being able to disable Copilot in response to Google's new AI).

I personally like how Bing presents information better, but it still has quite a few problems. Especially around relevancy, and it's image search isn't the best if you're looking for anything that isn't a photograph.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I was asking myself the same thing. This is a pathetic state of affairs... The only thing missing is that the google banner would now also acknowledge the Bing box and tell you specifically "don't listen to the other popup!".

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Microsoft is offering wallpapers, ask Google what it's offering before you make the decision.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Violations of privacy. Microsoft has that too though, so unless Google has wallpapers they need to step up their game.

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 3 months ago (9 children)

Why would anyone in 2024 honestly switch to google products.

They are worse than microsoft, and that takes effort.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Bing (and therefore duckduckgo) was down a couple days ago. I could imagine people temporarily switching to google during the outage.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yea, had to use google for a few searches and man was it frustrating. Like, I was looking for the new beta nvidia drivers on Linux, and google, for some reason, didn’t see it necessary to show me the official nvidia site in the first page of results. In DuckDuckGo, later that day, when it was available again, it was result N°1

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

After one Google search on my work laptop I was looking for searx instances - a lot of those were going down too due to rate limiting 😭

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Nah, the way Microsoft and Edge work still enrages me. I just use both Chrome and Firefox atm, with Chrome behind my VPN and Firefox split tunneled. I'm still on 10, but when I have the freedom to do so I'm going to switch to Linux. I can't just up and do it at the moment because I work through my computer and also game through it, so I need to have a ton of things ensured workable before I switch. That requires time and testing, and in an ideal environment a second system to run in parallel, which I cannot do atm.

I've heard our work may be purchasing work laptops for us, so I might be able to do my switch then.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Im not saying use Edge or Bing.
I use firefox and admittedly Bing and DDG.

Im in the same boat as you, when 10 goes, Im going to go back to(see Vista Era) linux as much as possible.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Im in the same boat as you, when 10 goes, Im going to go back to(see Vista Era) linux as much as possible.

There are at least 3 of us! Lmao, we have until Oct 15th 2025 for win 10

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Makes me wonder how bad is chrome nowadays, but not enough to check it out.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Well when the alternative is Bing quality search results, Google still has a slight edge.

That gap is closing by the day tho.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

What are you guys actually using?

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I find myself switching to Yandex when both Bing nor Google give good results.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago

The gap has been favouring bing (DuckDuckGo) for a while now in my experience. Every time I use Google or just doesn’t find what I’m looking for. Just a few days ago, when Bing was down and I had to use Google, I tried searching for the new beta nvidia Linux drivers. Google didn’t even include the official nvidia site in the first page of results. When I later searched for the same thing again, using DuckDuckGo, it was the first result… and stuff like that happens every time I need to use Google. The only category Google still seems to have a slight edge in is current (as in happening right now) events.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

The index is technically a bit better, but not only just as swamped with the same SE optimized shit, but also packed with irrelevant bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That gap has flipped. Bing never told me to put glue on pizza or to jump off a bridge if depressed.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

~~It is telling you to eat that deadly mushroom though.~~

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[–] [email protected] 211 points 3 months ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The xiaomi wallpaper carousel is the worst piece of soft on my phone, I don't care and no you can't have all those accesses.

Had to install some freeware to just set the backgrounds wtf is this, the way they are getting people now??

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Literally used adb to forcefully remove it... It reinstalled itself. Bruh

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago

They have me by the wallpapers!

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago

Well, you have to admit they are by far the best feature of bing

[–] [email protected] 190 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

When I quit at McDonalds to start a career in welding, the owner of the store happened to be visiting. He took me aside and told me "You know, those guys at... (Sorry, what was that place called again? Right...) You know, I've heard the people there aren't as nice as we are here. Are you sure you want to leave?"

I've never wanted to punch an old man so much in my life. In that moment, he was the personification of class warfare to me, trying to "trick" me into throwing away my future just so he could have more cheap labour. And the fact it was so blatantly obvious added insult to, well... insult.

Anyway, it's not the same, but the "wallpapers" thing definitely gives me the same vibes, lol.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 3 months ago

It really is the same thing though. It’s out of touch, insulting, and downright disrespectful to use something that is not unique to the provider, or valuable at all, as a reason to stay with said provider.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)
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