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OpenAl is sticking to its story that it never intended to copy Scarlett Johansson's voice when seeking an actor for ChatGPT's "Sky" voice mode.

This all “feels personal," the voice actress said, "being that it’s just my natural voice and I’ve never been compared to her by the people who do know me closely.”

This comes at a time when many studios are otherwise intrigued by the idea of using AI for things like digital effects but remain, after a long history of avoiding copyright conflicts, hesitant to connect with any company potentially viewed as stealing artists' work without consent, Reuters reported.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Setting aside whether soundalikes-hyped-as-the-real-deal is a violation of personal likeness rights…

How do we know what voice(s) they actually used? To my understanding, the process atomizes the input such that you can never actually prove what went into it.

Their whole business seems to be one of selling plausible-deniability engines.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (13 children)

I think a huge issue currently is the widespread "AI" hysteria. People kinda want to believe that they did this violation because they already have this negative image of LLMs in their mind from all the overblown headlines & scenarios that they've read.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

It’s kind of funny. This lawsuit is the same kind of “criti-hype” that they’ve been pushing since day one.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Tbh, I didn't hear the similarity in the GPT4o demos. Not saying OpenAI did right or wrong, just that I wouldn't have guessed that the Sky voice was meant to be ScarJo.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (13 children)
[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Parody is legal. This is not parody.

To be fair, I have not looked into this case enough to have an opinion. Just wanted to point out the logic error.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (8 children)

It is not allowed. See Tom Waits vs. Frito Lay. Vocal timbre is considered to part of a celebrities' "likeness" and reproducing it to imply endorsement will get you landed in court. ScarJo is a huge Tom Waits fan so she knows the story.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 5 months ago

This isn't parody, it's image and likeness. It is much less murky when they are promoting it as "Her" as in the movie starring Johansson as the voice of a sentient AI assistant.

[–] [email protected] 78 points 5 months ago

The issue is Altman made it murky. If my name is Joe McDonald, I'm allowed to open a hamburger shop. What I can't do is purposefully confuse customers for my personal gain.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

What doing satire has to do with the matter?

How do you think it would go if OpenAI had used actors with the voices of Biden or Trump and Altman had tweeted “POTUS” just before the event?

Altman knew exactly what he was doing.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Provided no "modifications" or "instruction" to make it sound like...

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I strongly feel she has a case. Altman may not have violated criminal law, but he has used backdoor marketing, climbing on her shoulders to sell a product.

For example

https://www.iptechblog.com/2023/06/no-first-amendment-right-to-confuse-consumers-high-court-holds/

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Also that he reached out to her to get an agreement just before he went live with the sky voice and tweeted "Her".

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The circumstantial evidence is very high as well. This voice actor saying she doesn't sound like Scarlett Johanson is absolutely meaningless. Sucks she got pulled into this I guess?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Yeah, that she wasn't given direction is meaningless when you have editing software. Not to mention that there are a ton of videos showing how easy it is to train LLMs to reproduce a voice given samples.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Look up parody in the dictionary, 'cause that isn't what it means.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago

Parody is supposed to be comedic in nature. This is not.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I'm guessing probably because she was never cast as the friendly-sounding voice of an AI, what with that being something people associated Scarlett Johansson's voice with?

I'm guessing that the multiple people who took over for Bug Bunny's voice after Mel Blanc died were not compared to Mel Blanc before they took on the role.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I’m guessing she won’t say otherwise because if her voice is canceled she probably won’t get paid as much.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Voice actors are usually paid for the work they do, not the performance of the final product.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago

Maybe, but she also may not have even known that she had that quality when she was hired. Casting directors don't necessarily tell you why you got a role. I did VO for quite some time. Sometimes I knew I was being hired to sound like someone else- generally a fictional character, but occasionally to dub in some dialogue when an actor was unavailable if I could do a good enough impression- but who knows about any of the other times? I've never been compared to Dan Aykroyd, but maybe someone thought I sounded enough like him that I got hired for a role which they wanted a voice like his for. They wouldn't have told me and I wouldn't have asked.

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