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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Windows malware

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Why the damage?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

"Windows malware" increasingly sounds like pleonasm

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

always been. In fact all proprietary program is a kind of malware.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Literally yes

This was pretty informative and shocking.

And then Chris Titus made this video

They literally record everything you do, at least if it is a "Copilot plus" PC with a "neural engine".

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

Literally yes

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.

[+] [email protected] -8 points 9 months ago (7 children)

I agree with the general sentiment but it literally says it will update outside of active hours. So as non-disruptive as possible.

And the privacy toggles are set when you install the OS. You can untick all of them the last time I checked.

Sorry for being such a pedant

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

but it literally says it will update outside of active hours.

Yeah, but it lies.

And the privacy toggles are set when you install the OS. You can untick all of them the last time I checked.

But a future Windows update will reset them without informing the user.

Microsoft respects user choice about as well as Republicans respect voting rights.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago

Yeah, but it lies.

No it doesn't, at least not if the update isn't already a month overdue

But a future Windows update will reset them without informing the user.

I've done 3 years worth of updates in one day cause I needed too. Pretty much everything was reset including registry edits, but the privacy toggles were one of the few things that stayed persistent. Maybe it's a EU special feature (wouldn't be the first), but at least here they won't change back silently.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Do they do that? I've had my laptop for a while, and it's never happened to me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

My windows install enjoys rebooting itself unexpectedly a lot. There is no chance I ever checked a box that said "update then reboot my computer at some time in the future"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Has what you said been proven and documented anywhere? All I can find is threads of people claiming things, but no actual (investigative) journalism that covers these parts.

Toggling on data collection without informing the user would mean billions of dollars worth of fines in Europe, so I doubt that happens regularly. Still, I don't mind being proven wrong if you got the proof to back it up

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Toggling on data collection without informing the user would mean billions of dollars worth of fines in Europe, so I doubt that happens regularly.

More like a few thousand euros symbolic fine and an angry letter saying "don't be an ass again pls our infrastructure depends on you" after years of blatant abuses and anti-consumer practices, followed by an ambiguous law (with positive effects affecting only european users) they will definitely not manage to circumvent withing the next week and a half. Not this time 🤡.

The problem here is the fact that most people just do not give a fuck about this; that's why there's no coverage in the (mainstream) media, why the only people who cares end up just leaving windows and why this kind of options are usually opt-out and they can actually afford to silently re-enable them cuz who's gonna check anyways? Random people ranting on meme communities about my fancy malware?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

You seem to forget what kind of fines the EU hands out. specifically against Microsoft in 2004 the EU fined then 500 million. And then another few 100 million.

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[–] [email protected] 130 points 9 months ago (3 children)

when you're the OS, they let you do it. you can do anything.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago

When you know for sure a statement (or reality) makes it impossible for something to gain mass-market adoption

Thennnnn comes the general public

NSFW transcript of (the only) twice-impeached US president

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/us/donald-trump-tape-transcript.html

[–] [email protected] 67 points 9 months ago

Grab 'em by the kernel.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 9 months ago

[–] [email protected] 42 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Maybe I'm missing something, but what is the damage in this screenshot?

[–] [email protected] 46 points 9 months ago (1 children)

High background resource usage.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Ah, the light blue between the 2 lines is background usage? I wouldn't know, I use Arch btw :3

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

I too have used arch btw. Currently using pop (deb) tho. I hop around from time to time.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Distro slut! /s

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

Stop distro shaming.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Thanks for asking. I'm using Debian and didn't know either. :p

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Yes.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (3 children)

To be fair, the access is authorized

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago

"Authorized" in the sense that even if I set all these options to No, a future Windows update will reset them and not tell me.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Authorized without consent. That is what Louis Rossmann calls a rapist mentality.

[+] [email protected] -25 points 9 months ago (4 children)

You do give consent. If you didn't you wouldn't be using Windows.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah this reminds me of the time I argued with a guy who stood firmly by the opinion that because Facebook has terms of service that people agreed to, there was nothing wrong or unethical about Facebook business practices and everyone who used it deserved what they got

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Most people are too tech illiterate to understand it all. I doubt people would agree to such a level of data collection, if they knew more about it. I believe it can be compared to making illiterate people sign a contract, when they can't even read it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

As if users understood anything related to their computer.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Say I buy a tomato. Tomato is sold to me as tomato, grown in a green house. It's a good tomato.

I bring it home and I cut into it to make salsa and find a razor blade. I didn't see any markings on the outside. I don't know how it got there.

I go back to the store and say, "Dude, what the fuck is up with the razor blade?!"

They say, "Oh, we noticed a lot of people buying tomatoes to cut them so we decided to include a razor blade! You're welcome!"

I say, "But I don't want a razor blade. I just want the tomato!"

They say, "Oh....that's too bad. We think you'll really like the razer blade."

I say, "I don't care. I want a tomato without razor blades."

They say, "ok. Just make sure you present this very specific, very distinct bar code to the check out person."

I go and buy another tomato, present the barcode.

I bring it home and it has a different type of blade inside it.

I go back to the store and they say, "Well, you opted out of blade model a. This is blade model b."

I consented to buy a tomato. Not to buy a razer blade.

I consented to install Windows OS, not fucking copilot, Cortana, Xbox central, etc.

I should have full control over my OS, regardless of who makes it. Even Ubuntu Linux had some sketchy adware that had to be removed (this was like Ubuntu 18 or something can't remember).

[+] [email protected] -22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Users explicitly and willingly click on "I agree" to the Terms and Conditions. It might be undesirable, but it is consented

[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Yes and no. While you are legally in the clear, in practice no one read those because of the huge amount of legalese.

True consent is only obtainable if the person consenting understands what it means. Or else it's just legal consent.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

"just legal consent"... I mean sure, but you know how stupid most people are, right? There is no way to get the type of consent you want from them for any slightly complex topic.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

Authorized by not denying...

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