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On a similar note, I get irate when people call the Business Plot a conspiracy theory. It's just a conspiracy. We know it happened.
this post was submitted on 21 May 2024
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Meh not really that wild especially when FDR kinda opened the can of worms by disregarding the 150 year old precedent that president's should only serve 2 terms. He also failed in his attempt to permanently stack the SC proposing to expand the number of justices to 15. Despite his failure he was still able to annoit 8 SC justices while in office. Let's also not forget his refusal to support anti-lynching laws and the whole complete disregard to the constitutional policy and procedure.
Not meaning to down play it but for OP's actual topic of discussion, The Business Plot doesn't even skim the surface of the CIA's depravity.
Edit: This is entirely my opinion of the matter and I didn't mean it to be as discrediting to you point as it comes accross. The Business Plot was and still is completely fucked.
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The fun part is the shit you can't talk about without disappearing.
Good times, good times.
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"Let's put LSD in this small town's drinking water and see what happens."
"What scientific purpose would this have?"
"It would be funny."
"Good point. Operation Midnight Climax approved."
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This is why nobody responds to my Grindr messages
A show called Snowfall touches on a CIA agent working to bring in cocaine to the US to fund anti-communist militias in South America. Good show overall. Not the best, but interesting.
It's weird how people honestly learn more history from drama nowadays than actual school or something. And this isn't a diss of any sort, I do that all the time; watch an interesting drama "based on reality" or something and afterwards I fact-check what things were actually historical and what weren't.
Iran-Contra affair used to be pretty well known, actually, but there's a clear generational gap and I'm other side of the gap. But I know it used to be known better. How do I know that? Well, from an American Dad bit, obviously ("Wow, I just learned while I was being entertained!")
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_involvement_in_Contra_cocaine_trafficking
I love how completely bonkers the iran contra scheme was: we're gonna use drug money to buy missiles and f14 parts for a country that imprisoned a bunch of our own people, because.... reasons?
to be fair people doing what is essentially high-treason while having access to an unlimited supply of cocaine might lead some of them to do a bump or two for the stress, leading to a horrible negative feed-back loop.
while simultaneously writing new laws to persecute cheap cocaine (crack) users militantly. it's all so fucking nuts...
honestly the only people I would except that sort of shit is from people who are chronically somewhat psychotic from having abused stimulants for a loooong time. or ones who've not necessarily abused them long, but have stayed up for three or four days straight with stims. starts getting freaky at that point.
either or explains most of Trumps verbal output imho
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Why is this a shitpost..?
At this point I don't even look at what community posts are posted to. I'm just convinced that lemmy is just a big subreddit with no categorization whatsoever.
I think the community names on posts being too small and moderators not caring about community subjects is a massive contributor to that.
I still love it tho
I mean it probably doesn't help, but if you're yelling anything at the sky you're probably gonna sound a bit crazy /s
After learning about the experiment where a woman lived in a house with a dolphin to teach it, and by the end of the project she was instructed to jerk off the dolphin to calm him down, I cannot be surprised anymore
That experiment was proposed by Carl Sagan, though I'm reasonably certain he meant that we should inject the humans with LSD to learn dolphin languages, not the other way around.
Source? I don't think Sagan suggested the LSD use either way, that was John Lilly's thing.
Sagan was interested in Lilly's dolphin experiments because he was interested in developing inter species communication techniques, because he was really interested in how we could communicate with aliens.
Lilly was the psychonaut. He invented the sensory deprivation tank during the dolphin experiments, would use it on LSD to try to telepathically communicate with them, and gave the dolphins LSD a few times. Years after the dolphin experiments he went kind of nuts taking high dose ketamine and trying to communicate with aliens.
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What?! You are remembering that story wrong. She was a dolphin trainer or some scientist and jerked of the dolphin because she thought the dolphin was depressed and lonely.
Edit: Found the source https://allthatsinteresting.com/margaret-howe-lovatt
She gave an interview on, I think Radiolab?
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Thankfully, there's a wiki page
The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) has been the subject of a number of controversies...
God, what a fitting start/title.
Let's be honest here. Which country's secret paramilitary espionage service hasn't been the subject of several controversies?
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Resignation of officials and agents who would not work for Donald Trump
I didn't think I would come away with my opinion of the CIA improved.
For the rep they get, they actually do objectively more good than bad. It's just that you'll never hear about most the good and the bad sometimes tends to get extraordinarily bad. That's just how it works, it's why they were founded.
I just didn't expect that topic in a list of controversies.
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