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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Honestly, if I could make six figures posting feet pics, I would do it too

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

I am for sex work, I am against sex abuse.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago

From what Ive heard about customer service jobs in the US, sex work sounds way less degrading than that.

On the flipside, you can make most jobs, including most types of sex work, not degrading

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

We should accept that there's both people for whom sex work is just like any other job, and people for whom it implies renouncing to an element of privacy they'd rather to share only with their partner/s. Should it be legalized? By criminalizing it you're screwing over a lot of people who do want to perform that work and don't provoke any issues in the world, but legalizing it might have ramifications that are horrendous.

For instance, say your country has an unemployment system where you'd lose your unemployment benefits if you receive a job offer and reject it, and immediately after getting fired you receive an offer to work at a brothel. That's great if, for you, there's no emotional element attached to sex, but for a lot of people that would be a nightmare, especially if they need either a job or the unemployment benefits.

So, my take: decriminalize sex work but don't regulate it yet. Once we have either socialism or UBI or both, and no one gets under risk of suffering personal misery for not having a job for a while, legalize it like all other jobs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Sex work can have an emotional element to it as well.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Wait, if you get offered a job that is dangerous or can scar you mentally, you have to accept it or lose your benefits?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Depends on the country's legislation. Conservatives parties often tend to make these regulations such that it's easier to terminate your benefits with a more ample range of job offers.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I'm pro sex work, however:

I have mixed feelings about the current ubiquity of online sex work like onlyfans. In theory I've definitely got nothing against it but I'm worried that a lot of young women are faced with shitty economic prospects vs potentially lots of money on onlyfans. The alternatives are so poor sometimes that it feels like coercion.

I just wish young people had better options all together.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Only fans is an MLM scheme, and watching "content creators" brag about how awesome it is to groom the next generation is... At least ick.

Nothing wrong with sex work, as any work, when done within a healthy ecosystem. But it is still a very murky area due to the very nature of human sexuality. The lines can get blurred very easily. Not as bad as Wall Street though. That's where the real abuse is.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Wait, how is onlyfans a MLM? Is there something about how onlyfans is structured that makes it like Amway?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago

I have good news for you! The income distribution of OnlyFans creators like many other platforms follows a power law, where the top 1% earn 33% of all revenue, and the average creator only earns $150-180 each month. Don't think young women doing it tough are likely to be coerced by that.

Most of the high earners are those who already have an established audience, e.g. ex porn stars.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago

Long as it isnt forced on them, let them work

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

A lot of the hookers out there don't do black guys and other guys of poc. Sex work needs to be regulated so such things don't happen.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Wait? Sex work should be regulated to prevent freedom of choice in clients? That seems a little counter-intuitive if you ask me

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

I mean it's the same as literally any other business. There's a reason businesses aren't allowed to discriminate based on things like race/ethnicity, national origin, sex, and in civilized parts of the world, gender and sexuality.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

well this is a delicate area because people have the right to be attracted to whoever they want to be. It's not racism to not be sexually attracted to a certain race. Just because a woman is a prostitute doesn't mean that she is required to say yes to every man.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But wouldn't that be an argument for not treating sex work as a form of labor like any other? I wouldn't have any problem saying a plumber or store owner or photographer or basically any other type of worker should not have the right to refuse service to people based on race or not being attracted enough to the person trying to get services. I agree that I wouldn't be comfortable applying that same standard to prostitution, but that feels like an argument that there's a fundamental difference between sex work and other, more typical, forms of wage labor.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If you can't see that these two different types of labor are apples and oranges, then I don't know what else to tell you. If a prostitute is forced to service anyone they DO NOT WANT TO, then it becomes sex trafficking, which is exactly the conundrum we're trying to solve here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I wasn't arguing that sex workers should be forced to have sex with anybody. In fact, I was saying that the way sexual labor involves these conversations about consent and bodily autonomy in a way that no other form of labor does suggests that it's not a form of labor like any other and conversations about it shouldn't start from the premise that it's a conventional forms of labor if treating it like one would lead to horrific consequences like arguing that sex workers should be forced to take on clients.

I guess I was half replying to your post, and half tying it back to the OOP image to say that given the concerns about sex and consent, I don't think I agree with the "all work is degrading, so sex work is no different" position.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I'm pro sex work because I am all for the idea that if you do what you love, you won't have to work a day in your life and, boy, do I love having sex. 😎

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