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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

That's going to help with their uninsurable homes and crime!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Conservatives can all go fuck themselves.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I think the most pertinent question these days is why is sex listed on a drivers licence anyway? If it's referring to phenotype why does anyone I give my ID to need to know what genitals are in my smallclothes? If it's referring to chromasomal makeup why the hell is that relevant to the guy at the liquor store?

If it refers to gender then the consideration becomes that you can't always intuit gender from presentation so that's hardly good at creating any benefit for visual identification.

ID is an issue in general for non-binary people. Here in Canada your passport and licence have to match but getting an X gender marker on your passport means your documents have a solid opportunity to subject you to travel discrimination and whether or not that ID will even be accepted abroad becomes a serious and sometimes peicemeal question.

The question of "should we allow changes of sex on identifying documents" is kind of missing the point. We should be talking total abolition of registration of sex on drivers licences.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

I have always wondered the same. Why does gender matter? Why is race sometimes included in documents?

It all feels very much like 19th Century thinking where the place and date of production are the most important aspects of your being.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's supposed to be gender but Florida is wanting to change that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I think changing it to "Sex?" will result in a lot of responses being "Yes, Please".

[–] [email protected] 42 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I don't think the IDs need sex on them. A name, a picture, a number, birthday, height and what sort of vehicles you are licensed to operate.

If it's that divisive, remove the field. I do not have a women's driving permit, I can drive the same things my husband can, it's not used for anything related to its function. A picture gives more information on identity, then if someone transitioned they could go get a new one and it would identify them correctly.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Next up: Florida creates Women's Driving Permit, only pink vehicles and engines below 120cc. Men on the other hand need a vehicle greater than 150cc with a hood high enough to no longer need to see children, as that is women's business.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't have to just be gender, trans people often change their name too as part of the transition. Also sex =/= gender

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The article specifically mentions changing the gender and nothing about name. Lots of people get name changes for various reasons, but it’s a whole process.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I tried to read through it before commenting yet I still missed that, my bad

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

Like if my banking doesn't require a gender to make a transaction why should my driver's license.

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