"Free markets is when I win and everyone else loses"
this post was submitted on 05 Feb 2024
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Nice! Glad to hear that Chinese EVs are finally getting more efficient and so much cheaper than the competition
Back when Japanese motorcycles were hitting their stride, the Reagan administration put tariffs on them to stop them from entering the US market unless they were below a certain size. The result of this is that Harleys got to get shittier and more expensive for like forty years.
I predict the same thing will happen with US EVs as long as Chinese alternatives are subject to the same sanctions. In twenty years every single American EV is going to be a stupidly expensive crossover, truck, or SUV and only a tiny slice of the market will own them, meanwhile China will be midway through phasing out ICE engines entirely and producing multiple models of every single vehicle type in EV form.
That's what I'm expecting as well. What we'll probably see going forward is a bifurcated world economy with US and China led blocs. China clearly saw this coming and that's the main reason they've been investing in stuff like BRI to create trade outside US control.
remember the whole huawei spies on you thing? Oh yeah turns out that was spin to enable protectionist laws so cisco could slap 5g gizmos together and do actual r&d for once, instead of spending its entire annual budget on stock buyback.
it's the same playbook every time
Well damn now I want one 🤷🏿♂️ anything the US doesn't like must be based
The US has terrible taste.
It is interesting to see a reverse of the Soviet situation where it's the Communist country with the "blue jeans" and a capitalist one missing out on them.
They're hanging on to the "Chinese products are cheap and unsafe, so it is still better to buy American-made" line like it's a lifesaver.
I still see people say things like "Wait til Huawei makes the shitty knock off of " like they aren't doing their own R&D and making better tech.
I've seen Tesla buyers talk about going out of their way to source one made in China rather than one made in the US due to quality concerns.
I think China is now hitting the point where "made in China" is considered neutral or even good by many people, like what Japan and Korea experienced.
BYD seems to be making inroads in my country, I test drove one and it was great. Most people I have talked to don't even care where it was made, they just see it as a good car. The government is still pretty protectionist, but the consumer ultimately just wants the best product.
"Are we in a crisis of democracy?" Asks the mf Lord.
Is this a deep fake?
Too good to be true. The queen of neoliberalism admitting this?
She says it at about 42 minutes in this video. Listening to what she says in that section of the video, she's 100% Deng-pilled except that she wants to do it to protect capitalism instead of protecting a proletarian revolution.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
She admit it! Seriously tho it is very real.
For sure, we're basically leaving through the reverse of USSR collapse here. China is rapidly outpacing US economically, it dwarfs US industrial base, and it's now pushing the bleeding edge of technology. Meanwhile, US is having compounding social and economic problems internally while being mired in forever wars around the globe.
Waiting for that moment where three military dudes meet in the middle of a field to illegally dissolve the country for personal benefits. Only this time it's gonna be better for humanity.
Instead of Eastern Europe turning into a bunch of dysfunctional capitalist countries, you get North America turning into a bunch of highly functional socialist ones. Texas will be our version of Belarus, hanging on to a bunch of capitalist systems in defiance of the trend.
I already found three security holes in my pair of Chinese jeans. Two medium sized holes and one large one on the opposite end.
Is there a number for a government agency so that I can report this threat?
🤣
China had already deemed Tesla a security threat. Makes sense. 2022 Wired Article - https://www.wired.co.uk/article/china-cars-surveillance-national-security
The difference is that in a free country like China, Teslas are still sold while the authoritarian American regime bans Huawei (and BYD through their opaque bureaucracy)
That being said, I would say Tesla IS a security threat, even in the United States. have you heard of the spyware they put on the vehicles. I mean arguably any modern car is a security threat but still.
also have you heard of the Tesla Self Driving stuff, there is no way any of this should be allowed on the road
I believe you're right. The huge concern for a lot of the EVs out there is that you don't really know who is actually able to get that data, specifically live camera feeds from around the vehicle. I think that may be why China started banning Tesla from around their sensitive areas. It makes me think that there are probably no good actors across the board with regards to EVs. The brand of car will eventually (if not already) be a choice of who you let spy on you.
it is not JUST EV's. it is any new car
Whenever US says "security" I roll my eyes. Soon my eyes will be staring at the back of my skull. Literally everything is a security threat.
Remember the onion/garlic security threat statement from that senator like a month ago? How Chinese onions are secretly like fentanyl killing USians or some bullshit lmao
Edit: here - https://www.bbc.com/news/business-67662779.amp
"Biden warns CCP robocars steal your data and send it overseas."
CIA/NSA out here like "You can't harvest Americans' personal data! We already called dibs!"
Amerikkkan cars are better at spying on you than they are at driving. https://web.archive.org/web/20231208031201/https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2022/12/01/10000-cars-can-be-data-raided-by-police-ice-cbp-love-it/
Hypocrites. They know they can't compete and are far behind. They will abuse the fact that they are a big market for years, but the rest of the world is growing, so with time being locked out of the US market becomes less and less significant.
Free market but only if I get to win
tfw someone lands on park place after you've already bought boardwalk 😭