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Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday rejected conditions presented by Hamas to end the war and release hostages that would include Israel's complete withdrawal and leaving Hamas in power in Gaza.

As Israeli planes resumed bombing Khan Younis in the southern Gaza Strip, senior Hamas official Sami Abu Zuhri told Reuters the Israeli leader's refusal to end the military offensive in Gaza "means there is no chance for the return of the (Israeli) captives."

"In exchange for the release of our hostages, Hamas demands the end of the war, the withdrawal of our forces from Gaza, the release of all the murderers and rapists," Netanyahu said in a statement. "And leaving Hamas intact."

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago

Zionists came out of the woodwork for this section, huh.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

For as much as he's a bastard, Netanyahu is right this once. If Hamas were allowed to use hostages to buy their continued existence, then this would do nothing but to signal to them, once again, that taking hostages is an effective and worthwhile strategy, which alone is obviously not acceptable. They would do it again in the future, without a doubt. Any time the other side has shown anything what Hamas perceives as a weakness, like for example when the IAF didn't bomb a target in the mid-2000s, because the terror org herded hundreds of civilians there, they immediately use this "winning strategy" again and again, even if they are hurting themselves with it.

Hamas also cannot be allowed to continue their rule over Gaza after October 7. The islamofascist organization has to be destroyed just like Nazi Germany had to be destroyed in WW2, there is no other way of ending this war. Even a left-wing Israeli government would not stop until the organization is neutered to the point of not being a serious threat anymore.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago

You could say most of the same things about how Israel has used Palestinian civilians as hostages in their plan to colonize occupied territories.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hamas also cannot be allowed to continue their rule over Gaza after October 7. The islamofascist organization has to be destroyed just like Nazi Germany had to be destroyed in WW2, there is no other way of ending this war.

Maybe... stop occupying Palestine?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

To Hamas, this sentence means Israel and everyone living there should stop existing. What does it mean to you?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It... Doesn't? There's a reason they updated their charter; no serious Palestinian organization is trying to erase Israel (edit: these days).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mean they're currently at war. They've stated separately they're going to be satisfied with a two-state solution, and made some steps towards that that obviously didn't work.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They were lying. It should be obvious to anyone that October 7 set back the two-state solution by many decades, if not forever.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Set back what progress? You can't say it was set back when there was 0 real progress and Netanyahu, who has been elected for 20 years on the promise that there won't be a two-state solution is the PM.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Tens of thousands of Palestinians were working in Israel, earning several times their normal wage and feeding entire families in the West Bank and Gaza. Thousands were being treated in hospitals every year. There was a deal in the works for the exploitation of gas reserves off the coast of Gaza in the works that would have resulted in billions in income to Palestinians, as well as energy independence for Gaza. Negotiations were nearing completion when Hamas attacked on October 7.

There was actual progress being made, despite the constant friction due to settler violence and movement restrictions imposed upon on the people in the West Bank. None of the good things will ever happen again and it'll only get worse for Palestinians from here on out. These kinds of deals result in contact, cooperation and intermingling, which is the basic groundwork necessary for Palestinians and Israelis to realize that peaceful coexistence is beneficial to both sides.

Terrorists exploited any ounce of goodwill. Those workers working in communities close to the border in Gaza? At least some of them spied on their hosts, reporting back even where children were sleeping, based on the maps and notes found on killed terrorists. Those communities who were hit the hardest were left-leaning, pro-peace and pro-Palestine, almost unanimously voting against the likes of Netanyahu while being active and enthusiastic supporters of the Palestinian cause, protesting against the two-tier justice system, against indefinite detention, against the harsh restrictions Palestinians in the West Bank suffer from. This kind of advocacy is as good as over.

Hamas knowingly hit those the hardest who are the best friends of Palestine in Israel, because they know that this keeps the violent conflict alive they so desperately wish to culminate in the destruction of Israel. Nobody in Israel will ever trust a Palestinian again to work for them, for many decades to come - and this lack of trust will make making any deals with Palestinians near impossible. Even before Israel has built its new border wall between its territory and Gaza, there are already invisible walls between the two people that are much higher than any physical wall could ever be.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago

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