The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.
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ALLIES
• r/ACAB
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INFO
• A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions
• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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ORGANIZATIONS
• NAACP
• National Police Accountability Project
• Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration
I'm confused.
The prosecutor had already dropped the charges. Was this a Civil suit by the parolee against the sheriff and deputy? What is the actual outcome here other than "yeah, they totally weren't allowed to do that. Glad that's cleared up, let's go grab lunch."?
Yup, civil suit. Which cops typically have "qualified immunity" from, meaning quick dismissal.
What about all the people who get shot for following police instructions? 🤔
Not trying to be a jerk or even joke. They legitimately are not around anymore so they can’t sue. A very small percentage of them have family members that sue but that’s about it.
Technically the states prosecutors can sue them but only if the cop doesn't have immunity.
True, and the worst part is a lot of times they won’t because no prosecutor wants to upset the cops since they are theoretically on the same team.
Yes. It's a very stupid legal loophole the USA has called standing. Anyone can sue anyone for anything. But to get it to court you have to prove standing.
This is the same reason why you can't get a protective order against someone UNTIL they attempt something. Nothing is preventative, everything is reactionary. And if the reaction against you kills you, your estate doesn't have standing.
Don't worry, SCOTUS will reverse it after another year of expensive litigation
and somehow create a new form of immunity, probably. I swear we need a consitutional amendment that explicitly bans courts from granting any kind of immunity without it being explicitly granted by a law.
This illegitimate court is so partisan and they love to legislate from the bench. Because they'll get away with it...
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