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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

For me Nextcloud AIO works. Still I don't like how "unstable" NC is. There's always something that does not work in any setup. Wish it was more stable or there would be a better alternative. For me it's videos. But only those that are MP4 and have their moov atom at the end of the file. They can't be played.

https://github.com/pulsejet/memories/issues/984

It's a headache. Set up Ente Photos just for that. Good side effect is that the images from my family and myself are stored E2EE encrypted on the self hosted Ente Photos instance.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I run nextcloud on bare metal on NixOS, but I'm planning on moving it to a NixOS container

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Proxmox > Debian Container > Apache, MariaDB, PHP is the way

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

nextcloud sounds like a good way to get vmware'd to me but what do i know.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

🤔

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

it seems pretty cool but i don't like anything that is heavily integrated for principle reasons.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

I like my Kubernetes setup at work. It runs Nextcloud, Mattermost, GitLab, company website, several embedded firmware OTA update sites, a few internal apps. Nextcloud was pretty easy to install on it with Helm, just a single command line and a yaml file to specify domain, settings, etc. I had some teething issues in my early setup where the database would get wiped inexplicably, but it's been running smooth for years now. (Yes, I know, bad juju running databases on Kubernetes...I'm used to it and it mostly works)

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

nextcloud aio docker image. final answer

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Nope, the document server didn't work.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

onlyoffice you mean?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Both, couldn't get it to work. I outsource groupware now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Does this allow for easy upgrades and/or are there any issues with local storage? I used to run it about an age and a half ago, but I've recently wanted to spin an instance back up for a few reasons. These things change so fast, I looked away and now I'm out of the loop.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Upgrades are easy, backups are really good, if upgrades mess up, you can restore from backup even if NC is hosed. As for local storage, I never did it, but here's the docs for it! https://docs.nextcloud.com/server/latest/admin_manual/configuration_files/external_storage/local.html

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Thanks. Might do that this weekend.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Best way I've seen to do it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

I just use dietpi's configuration lol

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I installed it on bare metal in Arch Linux, cause it's more fun that way.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

I also did it back when next cloud demanded a version of php that wasn't yet in the Arch repos. Fun times.

Running a Docker container now.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

You're a monster....

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago

I used or it used me for a couple of years. Then while looking for a replacement I found the snap version. I installed it in a fresh Ubuntu VM and it just works.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I'm still using Nextcloud, have been for only 2-3 years, but it's getting to the point where I'm more annoyed about it than appreciating the usefulness

It's not just being slow, it issues with the install. I'm pretty sure these days I'd be better of with specialized individual services than this one monster that die absolutely nothing well. It still can't even sync files on Android ffs. I'd consider this core functionality.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

SyncThing has been great for me. I tried NextCloud and OwnCloud first, granted years ago, and they were not great. So I've been using SyncThing at least 5 years now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

It doesn't really fill all the basic use cases I have either unfortunately. But it will probably be my fall back, yes.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

I haven't had issues with syncing files on android. File sync is literally the only feature I use, so I should probably look for a simpler solution.

Now upgrading the fucking thing is a nightmare, not sure if me using docker images makes it worse or better though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

We'll see if your reading comprehension liabilities extend to self-hosting.

Seafile is extremely easy to set up and does one thing and one thing well.

It does store your data as binaries, so it would be a bit harder to restore than Nextcloud due to that, but I've never had an issue with seafile.

Of course, I didn't have a problem with Nextcloud until an upgrade borked the installation bad enough that even restoring from backup couldn't solve the issue.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Just use the docker AIO image.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

I wish tried it. The thing implied twice and I had to start from scratch. Not exactly "smooth". Went to a full manual install, which is better but still very far from "good" or "stable".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I do, and if you accidentally skip a version when updating it the stupid thing bricks itself, what kind of stupid software can't handle multiple make version updates.

Had to manually reset the version it thinks it was at and roll back to a older sticker image and update one version at a time until I caught up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

This one? It was only started a couple years ago, I'm not even sure there's been multiple major version changes since it was put out and generally available.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Unless something changed in the last few weeks, Android app can't do bidirectional folder sync like you're used to from Google drive, Dropbox or one drive. You can mark a folder for "sync", but try copying something into it, it changing an existing file: no change on the server. I think you can manually open the app, navigate to the folder and open the menu to "sync", but what the hell is the point in having it marked to be synced then? I wanted to use it for my keepass DB for example, where that would be a requirement.

Yes, updates are a nightmare. I'm not on docker (also not sure if better or worse) and every 2nd update sometime significantly breaks that I have to fix manually. Last time, the "group folders" plugin (official, from the Nextcloud devs) broke it so bad that Nextcloud wouldn't even start. I had to go into maintenance mode, disable the plug-in ("app" I guess it's the term?), update it from console, re-enable it, disable maintenance mode. Not pictured: finding out what the god damn problem was this time. I've just about had it...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Just use the AIO docker image.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Works great until you have to update and you don't know you have to do fancy stuff not to break things. I didn't know I had to follow special instructions until things stopped working, and even then I couldn't get it to update and it's all borked now.

What else works for people lately just for the cloud files part?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

https://filebrowser.org/ just exposes a filesystem you point it at. Never had problems wit this. For syncing you can use syncthing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I nearly ditched nextcloud fully for this, but haven't found anything that matches the convenience of nextcloud for family members iPhone

Also filebrowser doesn't yet let you share folders that people can upload to, nor have good photo viewing in a shared folder (without login)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I've been using it (3 different installs) since the Owncloud fork with very few issues

Very interested in what issues people are coming across

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

I've used it about as long, and I've never seen it as easy to maintain as the AIO container strategy they're on now. It's effortless, and after years of failed updates and rolling shit back via occ, it's night and day. Even NCPi wasn't as bulletproof.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

Seen a small company share a nextcloud server running on a old VMware cluster with 2 cores and like 8g of ram allocated... What are people doing with their nextcloud servers?

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