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[–] [email protected] 44 points 6 months ago

oh how the turns have tabled

[–] [email protected] 173 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (16 children)

It is wild that people will say that using apt to install things is too hard, but then suggest a registry edit to remove Bing from seach. Windows just isn't as casual user friendly as it pretends to.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Honestly, with Flatpak and immutable base systems this is a place Linux is really excelling now too. Being able to show a novice user a shared package manager with a search and a bunch of common apps and them actually install/remove them in a safe manner with a high likelihood they'll work out of the box (since they come with all their deps in sync independent from distro) is kinda huge.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Don't really need sandboxed software for that. Ubuntu comes with their own software store and even if you only select deb, you just klick on install and you're done

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

So I was going to go find the Download link for the Linux version of Edge to post as a joke, right?

So I googled (actually duckduckgo'd) "microsoft edge" and clicked one of the first couple of links that looked like it was probably the right place to go.

And was presented with this modal:

A modal from the above-linked page with the Edge logo saying "Microsoft Edge is already installed on your device."

I'm visiting that page from Firefox in Arch Linux on a Raspberry Pi 4.

Admittedly I'm running a user agent switcher because otherwise I get the mobile version of a lot of sites, but it's still funny to me. I like being able to say "the fuck it is."

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago

Your Pi doesn't have Edge installed, but your eyes do.

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[–] [email protected] 120 points 6 months ago

This is the kind of dark pattern that trains Windows users trying to switch to Linux to do dumb things like blowing straight through a

You are about to do something potentially harmful.
To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!'

prompt.

[+] [email protected] 35 points 6 months ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (4 children)

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You have to hit ctrl on the keyboard while you click to bypass it. Apple Support Article

[+] [email protected] 37 points 6 months ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I so often can’t stand e.g. important privacy toggles being hidden deep in settings, dark patterns that obfuscate permitted but unprofitable behavior - so you’d think I’d be with you on this 100%.

And yet…

If they had said "we don't recommend you install this"

, grandma would hit OK without reading it.

For every dollar someone has paid tech support to help them install a desired app from an unidentified developer, I’d bet ten dollars have been saved from others not being able to install some spyware. Maybe that murky little dialogue box is good enough for the lowest common denominators that it outweighs the annoyance for us nerds? (Our small cost being we’re required to Searx once for the solution to learn how to bypass it)

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[+] [email protected] -54 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 months ago (2 children)

How would removing a browser break an OS? Is Window's really that fragile that it completely collapses from removing a single user-space application?

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I bet people would be less enraged if the browser didn't randomly open so often.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago

Its because they're fucken addicted to dark patterns. I want to set firefox as the default. That means any file that edge opens I want Firefox to now open. Except, Microsoft doesn't do that when you set a different browser as the default. I'd rather it change everything and then I have to change the PDF viewer manually, than have to change six or seven file types manually each time. Thus wouldn't be an issue if I wasn't working at my first corporate job, if my manager gave a shit to do anything, and if my company would stop changing everything and breaking my images every other week.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 6 months ago

It replaces Chrome

[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Oops I made a widdle fucky wucky and set myself back to default browser.

Oopsies the castrated search bar that plies you with ads until you type the exact filename or program you were looking for accidentally put the website you download it from above the program installed on your machine, don't worry I'll open that in edge for you.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I just went ahead and deleted anything that looked Edge-related from all the system directories. Sure, my computer won't boot into Windows anymore, but all the more reason to use Linux!

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[+] [email protected] -38 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children)

Actually that method in the picture no longer works, but there is a better, though still convoluted, method.

Of course, have fun adding repos and installing better versions of browsers in Linux.

Edit: When I said "better versions", I was primarily referring to Debian, which installs FF ESR. You have to add repos and install the better FF standard.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (6 children)

What web browser requires you to add a repo to install it on Linux

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Firefox Flatpak? :D

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 6 months ago (2 children)

That's the thing, most desktop distros come with a web browser preinstalled, but:

It's usually firefox or librewolf, which are objectively superior to edge in any scenario.
You can uninstall it right away with either a three word command or open a program with a big red "uninstall" button, no console needed.
Nothing breaks, the system literally doesn't give a fuck if you even have a web browser at all.
If you want another browser then go for it! You can even use edge if you're a psychopath. Your system wont judge you, but i might sorry-
It will never reinstall crap you uninstalled and set it the default on a random mandatory system update.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago (2 children)

yay firefox

Oh wait, that's what came preinstalled with my distro. No need to run anything.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Better versions? The best versions are firefox from distro's repo and librewolf from flathub for me.

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[–] [email protected] 113 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Tried a few of those once, only one worked and mfker installed itself in the next update. Uninstalling Windows was easy af tho.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 6 months ago

That's also my preferred way to remove Edge.

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