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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Desire for routine or at least control over the routine can show up in ADHD, esp as a means of controlling one's own condition. the routine may not look like a routine to others lol

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

I have adhd and definitely relate to craving familiarity and routine. This is a good general reference, though. I think the overlap between autism and adhd is vast and poorly understood.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

What am I if I crave familiarity, routine, AND novelty and new experiences?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Probably AuDHD (both)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

A mess who doesn't know what they want in life.

Ask me how I know.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

I have both and the top two are constantly at war in my body. ADHD screams we're bored, we should go out to a movie, grab a bite to eat, hang out at the mall, my Autism is like fuck no I wanna stay home under the covers and play Binding of Isaac.

When autism wins out ADHD is like, yeah but you suck at Binding of Isaac why don't you try something new and then I spend 2 hours scrolling my library trying to pick a new game instead of playing.

But if the ADHD wins out over the autism I'll go a place and get overstimulated and when I come back I'll either have a migraine, go into an autism nap for several hours, or just the burnt out and unable to focus for 2 days.

Having both sucks

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes, because only people with adhd or autism have special intrests and passions. Why not include breathing in the both catagory at that point.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

And everyone has to pee but if you have to do it 40 times a day you should have that looked at 🙄

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Me: Finally I have my ADHD under control, I feel so good.
My ASD: Hold my beer.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

So much this!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I'm not an expert, but can you not be both?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes, there's a massive co-morbidity between the two. Something like 50% chance to have ASD if you have ADHD iirc

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

its the reverse; about half of people with ASD have ADHD.

In the US at least the diagnosis rate of ASD is 2.7% and the rate of ADHD is 9.8%, if I recall the odds of having ASD if you have ADHD is approx 20%

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Here!

It's a really good match for "complex creative" careers. Like (high end) software development, maths, startups, skunkworks etc.

New and scary problem: Raaah!

ADHD: Ooh, new! enter manic mode

ASD: I'm gonna repearedly smash my brain into this problem and see who breaks first.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Take twice as long on the project as anyone else, but it's done right, and then spend several days in burnout recovering from the manic session?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes you can... It's not fun (ಥ ͜ʖಥ)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Sounds about right.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sometimes I feel like the upside of my ADHD cancelled out the upsides of my autism.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You mean the downsides of your ADHD?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

There are a lot of negatives to be sure, but some positives too. It's a double edged sword. Hyper focus can cause the absorption of lots of information, and the changes in attention can take someone to myriad topics. That can help create connections between areas of knowledge that might not usually mix, aiding in creative problem solving.

I don't lament my ADHD, I just wish I knew about it earlier, so I could have adapted better.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

I am the whole diagram.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I experience half of everything on the ADHD side, half of everything on the autism side, and everything in the overlap.

The ones that fight the most are craving new, novel things and wanting to not change a damn thing about what I do every day.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What, like... routinely change routines? You might be onto something. 🤔

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

It's the beauty of AuDHD. Great at finding patterns. Shit at sticking to them. But that's ok because here's another one!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The novel stimuli is what I dream of doing, while the routines are what I actually do :P

Edit: I just have adhd-pi

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Damn that's me

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

This reminded me of something my partner, who's AuDHD (I'm just ADHD), sent me a while back. I don't like the term "gifted" because it's not very meaningful, so I've been calling the 3rd circle "hyper connected".

https://tendingpaths.wordpress.com/2022/12/12/updated-autism-adhd-giftedness-venn-diagram/

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Can't confuse them if you got both. 👍

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

just out of curiosity, how does it work to have both? since some traits are directly contradictory