Ah yes, the cable kitties. First the orange one approached the food from the front, and all was well and simple if a little diagonal. Then the white one approached from the left. Now it could have gone around and kept things tidy, but that's not how cable kitties work. It walked right over the orange cable kitty's head and started eating. Then when the black cable kitty came from the right, there was only one food socket left. Now this cable kitty could have gone around, but cable kitties always take the shortest path. Up and over the black cable kitty went, and thus the tangle of cable kitties was complete.

I ain't no programmer, but I was a toolmaker and ME that designed machines to be used in factories. I learned to not be surprised at how operators could find new and interesting ways, (sometimes dangerous), run the machines I designed and built. They did things I never would have dreamed possible or meant with them.

This triggers me to my very core.

I've actually worked with a genuine UX/UI designer (not a mere Graphics Designer but their version of a Senior Developer-Designer/Technical-Architect).

Lets just say most developers aren't at all good at user interface design.

I would even go as far as saying most Graphics Designers aren't all that good at user interface design.

Certain that explains a lot the shit user interface design out there, same as the "quality" of most common Frameworks and Libraries out there (such as from the likes of Google) can be explained by them not actually having people with real world Technical Architect level or even Senior Designer-Developer experience overseeing the design of Frameworks and Libraries for 3rd party use.

actually, i would like to counter this. Developers often times put together shitty UIs that are hard to navigate (mostly because UI design is bad and we've been living with floating WMs for the past 30 years so nobody knows any fucking better for some godforsaken reason)

But it's no fault of the user for using a shitty interface if it was designed to be used in that manner, by the person who built it. This is why so many people like CLI, it's impossible to fuck up. You can use it wrong as a user, but that's because it has specific syntaxing. It's designed to only be used in that one manner, where as most graphical applications are designed to be "generally applicable" for some reason, and then when a user uses it in a "generally applicable" manner, somehow that's now the wrong way to use it?