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  • Star Wars Disney Plus shows should move away from Jedi-centric stories and explore other aspects of the Star Wars universe
  • Andor is a successful example of a Star Wars show without Jedi, focusing on the Empire's control and morally gray characters
  • Suggestions for new Star Wars show ideas include Pod Racing, Jawa Storage Wars, and One Man and His Droid, among others
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[–] [email protected] 36 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Disney needs to re-learn the concept of the Disney Vault, and use it.

I don't want any more star wars this decade, thanks. Games, books, sure. But TV and film absolutely not.

Take a break, let the audience build nostalgia and long for it, and sweet Jesus have a fucking plan next time.

Nope, they're doing a trilogy of Rey movies.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Nope, they're doing a trilogy of Rey movies.

They're doing fucking what?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I actually don't want any more Star Wars content. I'm seriously bored now. Perhaps if any of it was good it would be different but so much of it is so bad.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Same. I recently found out there are Star Wars shows I wasn't even aware of and I have no desire to even find out what they're about.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Let me go against the grain here: I see a lot of people saying "we need a show like this, we need more of that", but we don't really need more Star Wars. We need good Star Wars, not more Star Wars.

Most people want the occasional movie and show about the central Star Wars story, not a multitude of spin-offs about not-Star Wars which happen to be set in the Star Wars universe. They should develop more original stories and settings. "Go out and make your own Star Wars" in the words of George Lucas.

The only problem is the central movies have turned out to be absolute dogshit under Disney.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 months ago (9 children)

Yeah, hard agree. "Andor was great because it wasn't about Jedi" is the wrong lesson to take.

Andor was great because it was made by people who were deeply passionate about what they were doing. They took the set dressing and the context that Star Wars offered and they used it to tell an incredibly powerful story of resistance against fascist oppression, everything that means and entails and what it costs. They created something powerful and vital that deserves and needs to exist.

We need more media that was created out of passion. We need artists to be set free to make art, not shackled to producing whatever a studio thinks is popular. That doesn't mean it all has to be high minded, subtle or complex; John Wick was a work of artistic passion and it shows. The art is "Look how cool it is when Keanu Reeves shoots people", but that can be art too. Subtle, complex morality plays or guns and explosions, or Jedi having lightsaber duels. It doesn't matter. What matters is that people creating it really, really give a shit about what they're making, and are allowed to make it the way they want to.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 months ago

Wrong (in my opinion), jedi aren't the problem, writing and creativity is.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I want something that explores and expands in the sentinels, probably the coolest form of Jedi to me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

How about a Mockumentary on the existential crisis of being a sentient droid?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Workplace comedy about Jedi temple guards.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago

They are not obsessed with jedi, they are obsessed with making money. Wait what that little shit yoda is trending on twitter? Throw everything away, we need more baby yoda.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I really feel like somewhere along the line they forgot that what made Star Wars cool was the gritty 'Han shot first' scifi spaghetti western stuff. The Jedi are an important piece of that but it's so sanitized now - ain't nobody suddenly finding their bloody arm laying on the ground anymore.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

"Sanitized" is the best way to describe everything Disney puts out these days, whether it's Marvel, Star Wars, or even Pixar.

They feel designed-by-committee, unassuming, uncontroversial, flat, easy. There's little experimentation in story-telling, filming techniques, dialogue, and pacing. It's always the "conversation, action, witty remark between characters, action, conversation, witty remark" formula.

It's all so predictable and boring.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

I loved the franchise when I was a kid for exactly those reasons, and then Star Wars started talking about failed trade negotiations and midi-chlorian counts. I haven't paid too much attention since then, but I get the impression I haven't missed much.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

It’s important to remember that the vast majority of the galactic population has never seen a Jedi in real life, and doesn’t even know anyone who has. The Jedi are nearly mythical figures, surrounded by rumor, speculation, and misinformation.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

The space marine effect

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Well, by now they've probably seen all the films.

If it happened a long time ago in a galaxy far far away and has made it to our backwater planet, then it must be pretty widely popular.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

The dumbass writing would make more sense if it were a documentary.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

George Lucas created the Star Wars movies after R2D2 and C-3PO crash landed in an escape pod in his backyard, and they told him the story of the Empire, the rebels, and the Jedi. Earth is the only planet that has Star Wars because it's where R2 and Threepio ended up.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don’t have an issue with Jedi. I am tired of the Skywalker family.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Yeah, I'm sick of everything being connected to what came before. It feels pretty eugenicsy when everyone who is powerful and of note seems to be descended from someone who was powerful. Something something midichlorians.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I saw Star Wars in the theater when it was just called Star Wars. I couldn't agree with OP more. However I have zero trust that Disney will make more adult oriented shows for the simple reason of merch. What's the merchandising opportunities of Andor? You can't sell lightsaber replicas when there's no lightsabers to replicate.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

But you can't have merch if you don't have a popular story and they're jeopardizing the popularity of the whole franchise. I just saw an article talking about the 5 least profitable films from 2024 and 4 of them were from Disney. They make sport of beating dead horses until the world collectively. They've already killed Marvel and Star Wars is bound to be next.

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