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Using the term "guide" here very loosely lol...but then again, it's a bot reposting from a reddit sub known for its often useless or outright incorrect "infographics"
it’s a bot reposting from a reddit sub known for its often useless or outright incorrect “infographics”
If I'm reading this correctly, it's a human choosing to repost onto this community something a bot earlier posted to a different community from said Reddit sub.
I half expected to see a bubble for "they murder your dog".
Missed a big one: They end the session early
Also: They talk about logistics and scheduling during the therapy hour
It is very important to note that if you are seeing a new therapist or therapy is new to you, at least a few of these feelings are very common in the first few sessions (no chemistry, feeling disappointed or getting nowhere, trust). Even feelings of being judged or pushed to hard may come from initial feelings or not understanding what barriers or limitations you have that need to be addressed. Talk to them about those when they come up.
Some of these are obvious red flags to monitor and you should monitor all of these, but do not be discouraged if you are initially identifying with some of these; it takes time to settle in. Your therapist is first trying to get to know you, what you are going through, and understand how to help you. It's going to take multiple sessions depending on how much you need to get off your chest, but it should get better. If it doesn't, it's perfectly normal to switch to a different therapist.
There's a pretty obvious mis-use of the term "red flag" in this post. "There just isn't chemistry" might be a valid reason to move to a different therapist, but it's not a "red flag" even if that remains true after a year with them. A red flag isn't an incompatibility in a relationship, it's a warning sign of danger, or at the very least of something that should be considered an objective failure that makes them worth not just avoiding yourself, but recommending others do the same.
Sorry, I didn't mean for that term to apply to the specific items I called out from the list. What I was trying to say was for other items on this list, like a romantic attraction coming from the therapist, those can be things should be taken seriously and have justification for immediate concern.
Sunny apologise, I was agreeing with and reinforcing your point, not disagreeing or correcting!
I couldn’t agree more. You’re talking about deeply personal issues with a complete stranger - OF COURSE it’s gonna be kind of awkward at first! Give it some time.
Still, though, trust yourself. There’s nothing wrong with switching therapists. Even moderately good therapists understand that, and they don’t take it personally.
I agree with all of these, worth noting that they're all likely to happen at some point in therapy just because we're working on difficult stuff.
It's when it's a pattern of these things and the therapist is not noticing or addressing the pattern that it's a red flag.
This is why we have supervision to reflect and evaluate our work!
I’ve been to a few therapists now for my depression/anxiety issues. I’m still not sure what a therapist is even supposed to do. I’ve only ever left sessions miserable and it’s hard to see how it could even turn out differently. They can’t fix any biological factors and they can’t do anything about the environment that contributes to these problems. What the hell is going to get better from paying someone to talk to you for <1hr a week so they can tell you that the problems you have with the world aren’t real.
When I explain to people why I don’t want to keep trying therapists, they always just say something like “oh you just haven’t found the right one.” What? What would be the right one? Why are there right and wrong ones? Aren’t they supposed to be professionals?
God damn if my therapist tried to tell me that my problems weren't real they'd be fired before the end of the session.
Perhaps more precisely, they're all about your reaction to problems. A lot of "lots of people deal with these problems, it's about how you handle it." But to me, this kind of advice feels wholly detached from the realities of the problems I end up encountering.
The example I go back to (not my only problem, but illustrative of something) is when I was in college, I'd often find myself with unbearable amounts of work. Multiple pieces of homework and projects with different duration and due dates, tests to study for, classes to attend, groups to meet with for projects, etc. With how little time I'd have, it got to the point where I wasn't sleeping enough, I either missed meals or ate some quick, unhealthy food just to get it over with quickly, what little exercise I got dropped to almost nothing, etc.
This is more work than any reasonable person should be able to handle in a healthy way. And there's the added pressure that if you don't keep up with it you'll fail the class and it'll make it take that much longer to graduate.
You could say that other people went through the same experiences and turned out fine, but I'd challenge whether or not that's actually true. Most of the friends and classmates I spoke to in my time there were either just as depressed/stressed/anxious as I was, or were coping with it in ways that were just as unhealthy. Massive amounts of coffee, energy drinks, all nighters, alcohol, and I'm sure a non-zero number of them were on the various focus/productivity drugs people sometimes use for academics/work.
The rate of depression and other psychological problems on campus was really high. Personally in just my friend group, one person I know cried over a particularly bad HW assignment, one was doing self harm, two friends had to go home in the middle of a semester, one of them ended up transferring, and one friend disappeared for a few days during a group project and it turned out he was so stressed he was hiding in a shed on some other part of campus.
And yet the school was woefully understaffed on mental health professionals. All we really got were some platitudes about taking time for ourselves. What time? Did I miss the part where the school made the professors keep a reasonable limit on the work they gave out? Or is there some magical work free time set aside for us? No? Then this is useless "advice" that just shifts the blame onto us.
So what good would it do me to change how I was thinking about all this? Regardless of how I thought about it, I needed to get that work done or suffer the real life economic consequences of failing to do so. If I do get it all done, it comes at the very real cost of the physical strain it puts on my mind and body.
The only real "solution" ended up being me dropping out like halfway through my grad program. I had to completely separate myself from the source of the stress. But of course note how this is a burden that is entirely placed on me and my family. Even if I wasn't a mental wreck, my job prospects are pretty bad.
How is a therapist supposed to fix any of that?
A good therapist will tell you they don't fix shit but they can supply tools for you to cope and possibly resolve things you believe are issue.
Well a therapist isn't going to fix any of that. They only work on you and what you can do yourself.
I imagine if I brought those problems to my therapist, we would probably start by naming the good and bad of each option (stay in school or drop out), try to identify what I'm feeling and thinking about them, talk it over and help me come to a real solid decision (choice) about what path I want to take. If I chose to stay and tough it out we would probably work on strategies to help me accomplish that and cope with the challenges, we might discuss whether I need to allow myself some accommodations for example withdrawing from some classes and taking more time to finish school. If I decided to leave school then we would probably need to process that decision and do some work around the grief and acceptance that would come with that choice.
In my opinion, therapists are like friends. You’re not going to be friends with everyone you meet, in fact, you probably won’t want to be friends with most people you meet. It’s hard finding good friends but once you do, they make everything a little brighter. Just like friends, it takes time to find someone you really click with.
You’re right, they can’t fix your problems or your environment. That’s not what therapy is about. It’s more geared towards helping you recognize your own thoughts, behaviors, and patterns that are not serving you and adjusting them to serve you better. For example, a therapist might help someone to recognize the early warning signs and triggers of a depressive spiral so they can take proactive measures to prevent falling into a dark well of depression. No one can eliminate depressive episodes, but you can learn to recognize it and actively work against it taking over your life.
I hope that helps.
I find that a good therapist can help you get out of mental traps and reframe negative self talk. They can also help give you tools and strategies to avoid self destructive behavior. As for the right one, people are all different and I think it takes the right compatibility for therapy to be productive. Have you ever tried EMDR? Not sure what your specific baggage is but while I found it weird, it’s evidence based and it did help me.