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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (8 children)

One of my favourite games to have kernel level anticheat is Helldivers 2, and I think it's definitely caused a few issues for me.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (7 children)

It's really sad that they chose to implement it. I would've loved to play Helldivers 2 but I just refuse to allow them that level of access to my device, especially for a game that isn't even competitive.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

That's where I'm at with the game.

Like yeah it looks fun, I'm not willingly installing malware. Especially after the apex legends debacle.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (5 children)

There’s realistic only DotA and I can understand the reluctance, the two games are massively different, League is much more suited for casual play.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ahaha no I swear to god Dota 2 is ridiculously fun

In LoL you play the same game over and over again.

Yesterday on dota I planted trees with my friends to hide and wait for people to come to ambush them lol

You can do all sort of funny stuff, TPing people in your base etc… everything is OP so you don’t feel like you have no agency. You feel like it’s just your skills that are lacking!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (6 children)

I mean, ive played some dota in the past, i have about 200h on it, not nearly as much as league tho. But IME, especially for solo, league is just nicer overall. The mechanics for champions seem a lot more polished these days, and it is a lot more action focused, you have to worry about macro much less. The games are also like 50% shorter in league. As a solo player I find league to be a lot more laid back, where I can just play the champ more than play the game, if that makes sense.

To each their own of course, Im not saying one game is better than the other, but it is a hard sell to transition league to dota.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You’re right, DoTa is a lot more chaotic, but there’s a lot of action on the map! Macro play is not necessarily doing nothing in this game and often time fight breakout for runes, etc…

I think it’s about preference rather than reality because we had two completely different experiences so yeah, I love League but I don’t see the point of playing it now!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

While I'm League hater, I would love if the Dota meta shifted to shorter games like League has. I really miss the strategic depth of normal/ranked, but realistically if I want to play more than one match per evening, I have to play turbo mode.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Its Malware. Literally by definition. Who the fuck thinks it's ok to put that on anyone's PC?!?

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I would never let some random anticheat code have kernel access. Games are demanding something crazy, and users are stupidly letting them get it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (5 children)

It's not just silently installed by Steam, or something, they have to explicitly confirm they accept it? I don't play this game, I am curious if players are unaware or actively stupid.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago (2 children)

This is either the final nail on the coffin for playing league on linux or it will motivate linux devs to figure out a way around it. I don’t play league but I did enjoy playing TFT with friends always on Linux.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

I doubt there sustainable way around a kernel anticheat, that will not get you banned eventually. People either have to quit or dual boot.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

TFT can at least be played via android (or emulator)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Yeah I guess waydroid is probably the way to go for TFT on Linux

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 6 months ago

Wow, who could have anticipated that kernel-level anti-cheat was a bad idea? It's like people haven't been warning that giving an increasing number of programs that level of access might be a Bad Idea.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 6 months ago (4 children)

The first time I installed Vanguard, for the Valorant beta, it decided to disable my mouse and keyboard on each boot.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

Well, you can't cheat if you can't do anything

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

This is why I absolutely refuse to install Valorant (and now LoL) - I could somewhat understand if an anticheat refused to boot up the game in question if something triggered it, but it going massively outside of its scope and wantonly disabling or killing other processes is just nuts to me.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago

Even ones like easy anticheat have given me problems where if a game didn't exit properly my whole system got bogged down and required a restart.

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