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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (5 children)

The definition Democrats just voted for effectively equates Judaism with political Zionism.

If you have a shred of hope that we can turn the ship on the ongoing Israeli genocide, you should be 100% against this bill.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (6 children)

What a rare W

The group adds that "rhetorical and physical manifestations" of antisemitism include such things as calling for the killing or harming of Jews or holding Jews collectively responsible for actions taken by Israel.

This is actually really good and a point I've tried to make to lukewarm success. The Israelis are not always in favor of the actions of their government much like we Americans aren't. Making this distinction is important so that we remember who we're actually angry at and who we demand action from regarding the clear genocide of the Palestinians.

Context: I'm an American Jew who is furious with Bibi's actions and the IDF.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is not a W... This boils down to conflating zionists with all Jews. Under these definitions there is basically no differentiation anymore. Which is fine if you're a Zionist, but otherwise just lumps you in with them. It removes the distinction.

It's like saying because the German government was run by Nazis, that all Germans were Nazis, even those against the government.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children)

This is a disaster of a bill. It's basically expanding any criticism of Israel to be considered antisemitism.

Live breakdown of its contents here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfvhbnRGqO8

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I wouldn't call it a W just yet, the IHRA have defended Israel a lot in the past and I could see this being used to crackdown on the protests against Israel, even those done by Jewish people.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Its not a W whatsoever, its a complete conflation of Judaism with political Zionism.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (4 children)

The article says:

The measure passed in a 320-91 vote. Twenty-one Republicans and 70 Democrats voted against the legislation.

The bill, titled the Antisemitism Awareness Act, would mandate that the Education Department adopt the broad definition of antisemitism used by the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance, an intergovernmental group, to enforce anti-discrimination laws.

The international group defines antisemitism as a "certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews." The group adds that "rhetorical and physical manifestations" of antisemitism include such things as calling for the killing or harming of Jews or holding Jews collectively responsible for actions taken by the state of Israel.

This seems good at first glance, as it clearly separates Israel and Judaism, which would be very clearly against the views of Netanyahu and his conservative government. My only issue is that it could be interpreted differently to give IHRA the agency to change their definitions, and they're not generally unbiased when dealing with Israel. They had a highly controversial list of "examples of antisemitism" which defended Israel with fervor.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

as it clearly separates Israel and Judaism

What are you talking about? The definition CLEARLY combines Israel and Judaism into one category, as in, any criticism of Israel becomes antisemitic hate speech.

Have you even actually read the definition?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (9 children)

You seem to have trouble reading the text you're replying to. I'll paste if a few more times to make it easier for you.

The international group defines antisemitism as a “certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews.” The group adds that “rhetorical and physical manifestations” of antisemitism include such things as calling for the killing or harming of Jews or holding Jews collectively responsible for actions taken by the state of Israel.

The group adds that “rhetorical and physical manifestations” of antisemitism include such things as calling for the killing or harming of Jews or holding Jews collectively responsible for actions taken by the state of Israel.

holding Jews collectively responsible for actions taken by the state of Israel.

holding Jews collectively responsible for actions taken by the state of Israel.

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