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Spoiler alert: When did you start to trust Johnny? If you never did, why? (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 6 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Spoiler alert, last warning:

For me it was after finishing the Voodo boys questline and one of my favorite parts in the game, when V just collapsed, Johnny took care of it saving our ass and then gave V his dog tag saying he will go down if the situation ever calls for it.

After saving me, I even told him I would take a bullet for him.

But seeing this scene again in a youtube video made me realize maybe I was a bit naive back then. When V wakes up and the pills are in his hand, I thought the 1st time playing the game "yeah its normal, Johnny took them to bring me to a safe place". The 2nd time watching the video, I thought "wait a minute... maybe he was trying to continue taking them to stay in control forever?".

This is why I love this game...

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

I think Johnny is ultimately just Johnny. His growth throughout the game is coming to terms with the fact that he lost the fight against the corps and that the ends never really justified the means when he hurt the people close to him. He has to accept that he was always just a scared kid in an unfamiliar country desperately pretending to be hard enough to survive.

So...I think you can trust him to fuck shit up and fight the corps basically as soon as he calms down from realizing he is still alive. If it carried even a slight chance of success, I think he'd happily walk into Arasaka tower on a suicide run the minute you see him in the diner.

I don't think he'd hand your body back until you're chooms though, which is really cemented in the grave scene.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah its hard to say. Certainly initially he is an asshole but you sorta have to live with him and he has his good points. He just becomes a part of your life. They did do real well atlhough I sorta hate the "very limited time" thing they did as it so patently becomes untrue as you play. I think it would have worked if they implied it might happen over the course of a few weeks or it could be a few months depending. I mean even if you raced though content it would be way to long relative to the way vic lays it out.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm convinced that the chip isn't fatal after all. There are at least 2 endings where V goes months without meaningful treatment and doesn't deteriorate further. I'd be willing to bet That Vs brain and the chip have reached an equilibrium where the chip can't overwrite V faster than Vs neurons are rearanging themselves into their original configuration through the simple act of being V (which isn't a magical willpower thing its just the way your brain makes connections)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

that would honestly make more sense. Then the occasional episode might be when the two are rewriting the same resource or such.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

I think at the start Johnny is absoloutely untrustworthy, even when he doesn't want to kill V he wants to use them. By the time the VDB and Helman questlines are done I'd say he actually likes V but he's still Johnny. I can see him taking the pills for a few days and then realising he's acting just like Arasaka and takeing the blockers himself, maybe writing a really shit apology note before doing so.