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[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's terrible that they're the ones on the right side of history on this. It shows how low the US is willing to go to protect its ME interests. Literally morally lower than Saudi.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Israel doesn't give a shit. They were only interested in normalizing relations with Saudi Arabia to keep them away and deal with them later. Now that they've ripped their masks off and kicked the ethnic cleansing process into high gear, there's no point in normalizing relations. If Saudi Arabia has a problem with it, they'll be "regime changed". We've hit a point of no return.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago

Israel has an excellent opportunity to make peace and be the economic engine of growth for the region. But the mullahs in Iran, Hamas, and present day Likud are all made for each other

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Imagine how much better the world would be if Jews migrated to the US instead of directly in the middle of people who hate them the most.

Zionism is a plague that is responsible for untold damage.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

People in Palestine actually welcome them, and it is not Jew it is the Zainoist movement that were supported ( not sure who exactly gave them guns ) and started two organizations that committed multiple massacres before forming Israel.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

These were already after Zionists were already moving to the land in droves and trying to set up the Israeli state. That's like saying the Native Americans were violent anti-Americans for attacking settler colonies during the Wild West. The process of displacement and settler colonialism was already way underway by that time and seen in real time by the local. Rather than give them their own state as promised after WWI, Britain instead not only kept Palestine, but used it so all the antisemitic European countries had somewhere to put their Jews. Revisionist Zionists happily accepted this arrangement and once they had the numbers, started setting up terrorist and paramilitary groups and prepping for their future state.

But Jewish immigration has been happening for awhile before the violence had started, and during that time, relations between the groups were almost entirely peaceful and accepting. Keep in mind that migrations were happening in the 1800's and even earlier, way before your Wikipedia time line starts.

Btw, some of these Zionist groups tried to coordinate with the Nazis, too. And they've never reconciled with that. One of them became prime minister, and Netanyahu has a figure of the founder of Lehi behind his desk, too.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

The majority of Israeli Jews are Mizrahi Jews who fled to Israel after almost all of them, some 850,000 in total, were expelled or pressured out of Muslim-majority Middle Eastern countries from 1948 through the 1950s. About 72% (650,000) settled in Israel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_the_Muslim_world

The notion that Jewish Israelis are just Europeans is a profoundly racist and ignorant belief.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Even if that's true they certainly jumped on the settler colonialism bandwagon from Europe quick enough.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (3 children)

instead of directly in the middle of people who hate them the most.

It's not even that. Zionists caused the Middle East to hate Jews.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, nah. Their neighbors declared war on Israel the literal moment Israel was founded. They hadn’t even had time to piss anyone off.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Because the very creation of Israel was a settler colonialist state ethnically cleansing the local population.

I would say their neighbours had plenty to be pissed off about.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Blaming Jews for the antisemitism they experience is antisemitism 101, buddy.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The only thing you’re actually saying here is that you’re not familiar with the history of the Middle East prior to about 1948.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago

Uh... We should be counting from 1917, and before that point anti-semitism in the Middle East wasn't anything close to the point it is today.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Ah yes, the United States; famously a leading example of tolerance and acceptance for everyone. /s

[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago

? Look at how we accommodate Mormons.