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TL;DR: Norway subsidised electric cars a lot, that money went to the rich more than the poor, and left them with less money to spend on transit which delivers better outcomes for cities.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Clickbait headline, and stupid article. At no point are they making the claim that EVs are worse than combustion engines. The author posits that bicycles and walking are even more climate friendly than driving a car of any kind (duh). This entire article could be replaced by the sentence, "We should keep building trams and bike lanes in the EV era".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“Most Norwegian cities now have more of a car-centric, American approach toward transportation than a multi-modal, European one,”

That's a sad sentence to read, I always assumed Norway was like Sweden with amazing public transportation as well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I think this is a failure of imagination on the part of the author. Norway is, on a whole, much more rural; a large portion of the population lives in small towns and villages in areas with difficult terrain (think fjords), where public transport beyond a bus is impractical due to population densities.

The public transport in Oslo and Bergen are fantastic - Norway's only two large cities. Keeping in mind that over a quarter of the population of the entire country lives in these two, it's not as bad as it sounds.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

so it's not the "electric" part that's the problem in norway

it's still better than combustion engines

stupid headline!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

E-bikes and infrastructure would have been a cheap and effective alternative for those subsidies as well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

or like, electric mopeds

at least here in sweden like 90% of the population is within easy moped range of their daily business