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[–] [email protected] 41 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Ubuntu has long suffered from NIH syndrome, constantly inventing its own non-standard components (snaps, Unity, etc) and trying to make them "win" by forcing them on their own users. Reminds me of Microsoft with its non-standard Internet Explorer, its own non-standard version of Java and others.

The lesson is to use a Community distro, not a Corporate distro. When the distro's goals align with its community's, even a distro based on Ubuntu will usually be better than straight Ubuntu. For example Mint keeps the good things about Ubuntu (in Mint's opinion of course), removes the bad things like Snaps, and adds other features that the community wants that Ubuntu won't (like built-in Flatpak support among other things).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (6 children)

The lesson is to use a Community distro, not a Corporate distro.

Okay, but you don't see these kinds of complaints with Fedora or SUSE. While I don't necessarily disagree with your core point (community is better), this doesn't seem like an issue with corporations so much as an issue strictly with Canonical.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

That's precisely I changed to MX Linux. I won't use ubuntu for a long time I guess.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

"I understand that Canonical has every right to make the decision about their product."

That seems fair. There are loads of distros available so why not try something else if you don't like Ubuntu?

Linux and other mainstream Unices such as FreeBSD or OpenBSD int al (that's not something I ever thought I'd be able to say a few decades back) are not Windows or Apples or whatevs. You do you and not them!

If Ubuntu fails to scratch your itch then move on. Debian is the upstream for Ubuntu so you'll probably be fine with that instead. There is loads of documentation for Debian via the wiki etc and of course most Ubuntu docs will apply as well.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago (3 children)

This along with other things is another reason why i will continue to recommend noobs start with pop os and more advanced users to use bazzite.

I do wish pop os would change their name to cosmic os though. Their current name is too close to poop os πŸ˜…

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

never thought of "poop os" but I think Pop!_OS is a stupid name, it's the only reason I avoided it and chose Nobara instead lol

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

Don't forget the random punctuation mixed in. It's like the title of a kids' tv show.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

That's fantastic! Obviously no one will ever use it.

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 6 months ago (10 children)

I get it.

I don't love Snaps either.

However, a thing I try to remember and wish others would as well is simply this: Canonical is a company. Their goal is to make money. They are not out to create the ultimate free as in freedom Linux distribution.

This does (to my mind) not make them evil, and ESPECIALLY doesn't make the folks who work there evil. It makes them participants in the great horrible game that is Capitalism, and expecting anything else from them is going to lead to heartache, as you've seen.

If you want a Linux distro that shares your preferences and won't try to jam snaps down your throat, you might consider giving Debian a whirl as many others have.

Continuing to ride the Ubuntu train and raging against the dying of the light when it continues chugging in the direction it's been headed for YEARS seems ... futile :)

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Agreed.

For any (k)ubuntu refugees, do as I did and switch to Debian!

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