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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

I thought OP wrote the headline himself but no, PCGamer "journalists" just spend way too much time on Reddit

[–] [email protected] 79 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I'm surprised they made 440m. However, investing in r+d is not unusual. This amount is not a huge investment for them based in overall revenue.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Yeah. Come back in 10-15 years when half the world is using it or a successive product and people will be posting articles like these laughing at them like they do with the ones saying the internet or cell phones will never catch on and surprisingly no one will open up and admit they were the ones denying it would come. Meta has the money, they don't care how much they spend, as long as they can get in and corner the market early they will make it back many times over in the years to come... assuming climate change or nukes don't make it impossible of course.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (3 children)

its like they have too much money and they're burning it away on bad ideas. Imagine how much public housing that money could have built.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I mean, you do understand that this money isn’t just vanishing right? It’s being spent on people, manufacturing, materials. It doesn’t just vanish into nothing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

yeah it gets distributed in the economy and gets absorbed in the system. at least it's not being hoarded or funneled outside the country.

the other poster is just parroting things they do not understand.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They have the best VR headset in the market. The only problem is that it's also mining all your data.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Do they? I thought it was just the cheapest.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

It's the best for normal users (price vs performance), not for VR pros or the best experience possible.

Mandatory: fuck Facebook / Meta

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

That's because they're losing billions selling it. If it cost what it actually took to produce it wouldn't be the best on the market anymore, they're trying to bully out players who can't afford to lose billions for years until they're in total control.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

Why that’s a 10% return on investment!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago

Business are business.. sometimes you win sometimes you lose but not always it's about winning in the short term..

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

You guys do this like every quarter lol

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Zuck read Ready Player One and wants so badly to be James Halliday. He just wants to be loved. 🤣

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I can't believe I'm saying this, but these companies need to pay more taxes. Losing $3.9 billion dollars on a stupid vanity project because they have nothing else to spend it on is ridiculous. Higher taxes would at least force them to be more efficient.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Investment is good. Public policy is usually designed to encourage it that's why investment has good tax avoidance that is exactly what the government wants.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 6 months ago (2 children)

You're not really talking about higher taxes, you're talking about reworking the corporate tax system. As things stand now higher taxes would encourage more of this sort of behavior, not less.

Corporations only pay taxes on profits, so money spent on business activities, re-invested back into the company, paid to employees, etc. is not taxed. In this system, taxes are kind of a penalty paid for taking money out of the business; the higher taxes are the less incentivized profit-taking is.

If your company made $100 million in profits at a 20% tax rate you get to take home $80 million as opposed to re-investing $100 million back in the company and not paying any taxes, so the incentive to re-invest isn't very high. But if your company made $100 million in profits at a 40% tax rate now you can only take home $60 million as opposed to re-investing $100 million, which becomes a much better value proposition on re-investment.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago

Whether VR works for Meta or not, they have invested in technology and built careers for employees. This is why we should have corporate taxes. I'd rather see corporations keep employees and advance technology instead of giving dividends to the wealthiest people in the world. While the product might not work out, I bet there are many people who worked on it that will take those skills to new projects.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Many people have no clue how taxes work, but darn it, they wanted them raised. It just encourages other behaviors, such as offshoring money, as many companies do. We really need a complete write of the tax code to encourage paying workers well, creating jobs, etc and less focus on avoiding paying the taxes. I don't care if a company makes billions in profit if their workers are all paid well, treated well, etc. We will make it up with them having money to spend in the economy.

I am still not convinced VR is a worthy technology outside of a few niche uses. I went to the verge when that was open and that was pretty cool. At home is nothing like that.

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