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For at least ten years, the Chinese Communist Party has been abducting its overseas citizens on EU territory and forcibly returning them to China - violating the rule of law and public security in Europe - a new report finds.

Full report: https://safeguarddefenders.com/sites/default/files/pdf/Chasing%20Fox%20Hunt.pdf

Archived version: https://archive.ph/lEYCn

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (23 children)

As of 2022, there were approximately 1.2 million victims of US government abduction being held on US soil. Just to put things into perspective.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (11 children)

Source? From my experience, US goes in the opposite direction. They keep inventing new reasons to kick people out. Their Title 42 is a perfect example of how they circumvent their Title 8 protections.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Probably a false equivalence to the prisoner population, as if China doesn't have any prisons and it wasn't an entirely different issue

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (3 children)

The US drone strikes it's own citizens on foreign soil so yet again China is doing a bad thing that's not nearly as bad as what the US is doing and everyone just ignores what the US is doing and shouts BUT CHYNA! Racist hacks

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (6 children)
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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (5 children)

I will be the first one to accuse US of being a hypocrite criminal state, but this whole mentality of excusing China's abhorrent behavior because someone else is worse is just as bad as ignoring US crimes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Abducting someone is only "abhorrent" without the context. It's only bad if you assume they don't have a good reason for it. And you can only assume they don't have a good reason for it if you buy into the propaganda that the Chinese government is some entity made of pure evil.

Maybe these folks were past their visa, or were being extradited for some crime. Who knows. There are lots of super valid reasons for an embassy to "abduct" someone. World governments do that kind of shit all of the time for totally normal reasons. And yet where's the article about "German Embassy KIDNAPS man who was staying in the US on an expired visa." They don't exist because people naturally assume that white governments have a good reason for doing something and non white governments don't. It just racism plain and simple.

Sure maybe the Chinese government is just going around risking international incidents because some random dude is doing thought crime. Or maybe they're just getting them out of the country because they're not supposed to be there anymore. One of those is significantly more likely than the other.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Indeed, plenty of other countries extradite people, with the permissions of the other government. The difference here is China not only didn't have the permission, but they didn't even ask for it. So you can call it propaganda, while reasonable people will call it kidnapping under the existing law.

I looked for the article related to "German Embassy KIDNAPS man who was staying in the US on an expired visa" and couldn't find it. Could you provide the link for it?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (8 children)

That's my point, said article doesn't exist, because mundane shit like "embassy does its job" is only "news" when "non white bad people country does things." It's only news when it feeds the racist propaganda machine.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

So why does other non-racist countries doesn't cover it if it's happening. Countries that oppose US on stuff like their double standards, war crimes and other hypocrisies release plenty of articles on those topics. But by your own statement, there are 0 articles about this.

I'm not one of those people that will say US good, China bad without looking at the context and judging it on its own merit, but you are not helping your case here. I need some objective details of what you are claiming to be true.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"the fact that you can't find evidence for my point totally proves my point!"

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Are you really implying clandestine abduction is an acceptable method to deal with an overstayed visa?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Also, they consider anybody of Chinese ethnicity to be 'their people'. Even if you've not been to China ever in your life. Fuck pooh bear

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Winnie the Pooh isn't illegal in China. You've been lied to.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (7 children)

Not sure where I implied in my post that it's illegal in China. Fuck xinnie, if that makes it more understandable for you

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Ah, so you were just being racist. Got it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (16 children)

Take a look at my nick. Yes, that's a Chinese name. Are we doing the Jewish antisemitism thing?

As an Asian: I have never once met a single other Asian who thinks the pooh meme is racist. Even the Chinese pro-CCP crowd understands it's targeting Xinnie specifically. I've only ever heard the 'racist' take from white folks defending Xinnie. Thanks for your concern guys, but there's really no need.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

They have it backwards, Winnie the Pooh is illegal outside of China, that's why Xi abducted him and forces him to work at Disney Shanghai.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Care to explain how calling a person of Asian ancestry Pooh Bear isn't incredibly racist?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

Take a look at my nick. Yes, that's a Chinese name. Are we doing the Jewish antisemitism thing?

As an Asian: I have never once met a single other Asian who thinks the pooh meme is racist. Even the Chinese pro-CCP crowd understands it's targeting Xinnie specifically. I've only ever heard the 'racist' take from white folks defending Xinnie. Thanks for your concern guys, but there's really no need

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Ah yes, Winni the Pooh a well stand-in for Asian people.

Not at all a representation of one person, a certain Xi Jinping, who was the butt of Chinese memes comparing him to the bear, and further reinforced by his governments censorship of Winni the poor relating in the Streisand effect.

Think before you speak Hexbear chud.

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