Op regarding your edit, your title says privacy open source and security , it says nothing about for piracy. I'm aware we're on a piracy community, but that's not what your title said.
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It is explained in the body
SimpleX has the best privacy, because of removing metadata.
Signal comes close, and has many more users. Probably some of your friends already use it.
If you want something similar to Telegram/Discord/Slack, then Element (Matrix) is what you're looking for.
All of the above are E2EE.
No all my friend are on insta 🤢
Time for new friends!
/s
It sucks, I know :(
Matrix?
Signal is the best, honestly the tech is unbeatable. If you don't want to use a phone number, then Session is similar albeit with less robust encryption protocols.
They need to finally release the usernames feature. That will probably make it much more usable. At some point I managed to convince some of my friends to use signal, but ever since they removed sms support, even I don't use it.
They should have waited for usernames to remove the sms support.
I don't understand why the sms thing is such a big deal. Either use it or don't, as in, I use shitty sms android when I must buy the majority of my communications are done through signal. Sms is not secure and should be avoided.
+1
Signal has been legit and trustworthy for many years
Take a look at "Seeker". Its a client for the SoulSeeker network. Nicotine+ for desktop is nice too.
The first messenger without user IDs
Other apps have user IDs: Signal, Matrix, Session, Briar, Jami, Cwtch, etc. SimpleX does not, not even random numbers.
This radically improves your privacy.
Thanks looks very promising
Simplex.chat is promising, with great privacy/anonymity concepts at its core:
- no identifyer like a phone# or an email address needed
- little to no metadata transiting by the server
- identity management ("incognito" identities generated in one click when joining a group for instance, management of several identities), all database/client-side.
- works with any server, through tor by default. different servers used to send/receive messages.
- android/ios/linux-tui/linux-desktop/macos/windows versions available
- in Haskell, so no node/electron shtf#ckery (just a different shtf#ckery... ;)) )
Has bugs re invites. Not for noobs.
If you're on simplex you will understand this joke:
Simplex sucks because we need stickers
P.s. really love simplex, would like to see more stability and maybe speed, but everything else works just great
Thanks may have to piggyback on it later
Matrix i guess, its a federated messaging protocoll. Flagship messenger app would be Element. Sending large files would depend on the server you are on.
As far as I know Telegram is the only one with piracy-oriented channels. Maybe we could start one on Signal
While I agree with your and a more open/private telegram would be great the thing is that the current alternatives, Signal, Matrix, whatever are simply subpar alternatives when it comes to the clients. We can say a lot about telegram's privacy but the true is that all their native mobile and desktop clients outperform everything else out there. (I wonder why a native app would outperform react garbage :P).
The only think that might be private yet as performant as Telegram might be some kind of XMPP but the issue with that is that mobile clients suck.
I don't think matrix have piracy groups but yes in terms of privacy it's the best (ok maybe not the best and i should have put some reaserch into it my bad guys . i don't use it though)
No, Matrix isn't the best in terms of privacy. It is a metadata disaster and Telegram clients are still more performant.
Matrix's E2EE does not, however, encrypt everything. The following information is not encrypted: Message senders, Session/device IDs, Message timestamps, Room members (join/leave/invite events), Message edit events, Message reactions, Read receipts, Nicknames, Profile pictures
ive been scared to say i dont like matrix. so many people seem in love with it.
Isn't that for privacy i want piracy
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