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The more things change, the more they stay the same (lemmy.world)

submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 7 months ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 7 months ago

Our biological weakness for an ample bosom transcends the ages.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 7 months ago

I just think they're neat

[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 months ago

Big booba good

[–] [email protected] 35 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I've always liked me a big woman, but those ancient boys may have liked too big of a woman. Who am I to judge, though? Probably sign of a real good harvest, and I bet that made everyone horny back then.

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[+] [email protected] -9 points 7 months ago (13 children)

AI generated images are not art though. Image =/= art.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I've seen stable diffusion images better than most art.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

🤮

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Define art? I once saw a piece of fruit in a cage that was supposedly art. All seems like bullshit to me.

[+] [email protected] -7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Art is the conscious use of imagination to create something with the intention of it to be appreciated, experienced, and/or evoke an emotion in the observer. It requires one or two way communication between the creator and the person experiencing it.

AI generated images aren't art because there is no conscious creator who intends to create an experience for the viewer. If a future AI is conscious and self aware enough to have a will of its own, and will use it's own creativity to create something to be experienced or appreciated by the viewer, we would have AI art, but until then these aren't art.

Also, the banana taped to a wall or a fruit in a cage is art, though it doesn't mean it's good or not. Art that sucks is still art.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Is the prompt used not that then?

Seems the process of creating the correct prompt fits your definition.

So the ai is more like the sculpting tools or paint right?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I can go to an online artist and commission a piece of art, but it doesn't make me the creator, and similarly, if I prompt an AI to generate the image, it doesn't make me the creator of the image.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Digital art is a thing. Just because something takes text input and not a mouse doesn't change the fact you are using a tool to create art.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You misunderstood me, of course digital art is art when created by an artist, but if I pay an artist to make something I want, it doesn't make me the creator.

If I prompt an AI, it doesn't make me the creator either.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

We'll have to agree to disagree because I think prompt crafting is a skill itself.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (3 children)

It's art because it's intentional.

The point is to make you think it's bullshit. That was the artist's intent.

AI has no intent. The person prompting it might... But usually it's not intent so much as "I tried until this was pretty"

Which is still art - just not noteworthy.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (3 children)

One could argue that the viewer also has a role in acknowledging something as art, which would mean that intention is not totally mandatory in the definition.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

So it is art then due to the prompt engineering.

So if the artist's intent was to create something that is art but not seen as noteworthy to people of your opinion it's art right? As that was their intention.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Yes. That's why I said it was art. That was the closing statement.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

It's not art if it's not handmade by a human

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'd say that's not what "abnormous" means, but I like your implied definition better.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I didn't know it was a real word and assumed OP made it as a combination of abnormal and enormous. Just looked it up though and you're right.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I feel like with enough usage, we could force the definition to shift.

I'm going to try and make fetch happen!

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

"art"

[–] [email protected] 39 points 7 months ago (1 children)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

Yes yes, “ah tah.”

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