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If the owner of the standard notes will now be a proton, doesn't that contradict this principle? I have a proton email account but I don't want it linked to my standard notes account. I don't strongly trust companies that offer packaged services like google or Microsoft. I prefer to have one service from one company. I am afraid that now I will have to change where I save my notes. What do you guys think about this?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago

Average Joe wants an easy all-in-one solution. That's what Google, Apple and Microsoft offer. An ecosystem. If you want to fight that, you need to be able to offer that. So that's what Proton is doing.

Of course it's better to have it seperated. And the security and privacy nerds will likely keep doing that anyways. But Average Joe doesn't want to take a hassle and rather looses privacy than do that.

Issue is, things are only as secure as the least secure point. Average Joe using Google and Microsoft means your data also goes there when interacting. When Average Joe is swayed by a place that is privacy-friendly ánd convinient, it makes your weakest link also stronger.

Meanwhile, Average Joe is also more save then when he was using Google or Microsoft services. Even when he would be less save than if he had his stuff seperated.

It helps everyone.

With that in mind, I applaud it. But I won't use it. I use Proton for mail, Joplin for notes (encrypting them in Joplin and syncing with NextCloud), and my passwords are also elsewhere than ProtonPass.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago

Just create another account. What's the problem?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

I've mentioned this issue a few times, then "But Proton has proven to be good! It's OK" is the usual response, that's when i remind them of how Google also used to be good. I don't really use a notes taking app, but in general after Google, the idea of "one login, a gazillion apps" is something i dislike in principle because even if the one central authority doesn't go evil, one login incident and you're locked out of everything you depend on.

Yeah, I'll continue using Protonmail but that's likely all I'll use from them and diversify on the rest.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

If they treat it the way they do with Simplelogin, then you can choose to keep your accounts separate. Just the option to log in via your Proton account will be a future option if they end up including standard notes as a premium feature.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Syncthing + your text editor (orgzly revived is great)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

And there is orgzly for linux or something?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

You activated my trap card!

It's entierly based on the excellent org-mode for Emacs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

A simple text editor does the job on PC, I use kate (kde) but perhaps a markdown editor might be better.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I've been using orgzly for years and this is the first I've heard of revived. Looks promising.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Same! I used orgzly for a good while, might have to get back to it.

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