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[–] [email protected] 36 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Women’s basketball has soared in popularity in recent years, with this year’s March Madness tournament dwarfing its men’s counterpart. There are plenty of reasons for this, but one of them is that the game is just fun to watch.

This should result in more media money, which should result in higher salaries. We'll see. Football really does suck a lot of the oxygen out of the room, financially speaking.

Another part of the discussion is that popularity is sort of meeting in the middle, since as women's basketball rises, men's college basketball has been gutted by (among other things) stars leaving after one year, as well as court-forced rule changes (completely reasonable, IMHO, because players should get agency) that have everyone else playing musical chairs as they switch schools to pursue their financial and athletic dreams rather than buckle down to get a degree, which is often nerfed anyway.

College athletics in general, and "revenue sports" in particular, try to meet the letter of the "Student Athlete" rules without giving a single shit about graduating players who have the same level of mastery and accountability as even a garden variety liberal arts major. It's not really a new thing, either. I muddled my way through an English degree, learning study skills as I went, and while I'm under no delusions that meeting the minimum standards was as hard as it would have been in an engineering program, there weren't exactly any athletes in my classes on Elizabethan Drama or the History of the English Language, either.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 6 months ago (13 children)

Hey that's about what most engineers graduating from college get. And they won't be able to do sponsorships and ad deals. I would say $76k is a much more appropriate salary to start with than what the men make in basketball. That is just crazy

[–] [email protected] 43 points 6 months ago (1 children)

She has north of 3m in sponsorship deals right now, and we can only assume that number will go up in the WNBA

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

It may go down in the WNBA. Caitlin Clark isn't the first player who was expected to make the WNBA popular (Maya Moore, Brittany Griner, etc). It's far too early to tell if she will have any impact on WNBA viewership.

The issue is that NIL money is also a way for boosters to pay players to stay instead of the shadowy back door deals that used to happen. Now NIL just allows boosters to pay players through a legitimate channel.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Damn. You can’t force higher wages if the revenue isn’t coming in though. Maybe make a mixed gender league with co-ed teams.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I imagine "soaring in popularity" would also mean more revenue...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

The article says the women's college tournament 'dwarfed the men's tournament', but the ratings numbers I've seen show the men's tournament has had 5x the viewership. So someone's not doing their research. Plus, this is college, not the pros. If the WNBA viewership increases, then,yes, more revenue should come with the next media contract. But that remains to be seen.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

Yeah the author got something mixed up. The men's tournament so far has been one of the most watched years ever. It is true the women's final is most watched game so far. But that's comparing a final to other games. And NC State vs Duke last weekend had almost as many people watch. So a men's Elite 8 game nearly matched the women's final.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The sub header implies WNBA numbers are up though:

As women’s pro basketball soars in popularity, player compensation lags.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I can only go by the actual numbers I've seen, and it seems like most articles are cherry picking, at least so far. Saying 'popularity is soaring' isn't the same as hard numbers.

For example, the NBA could claim their popularity is soaring during the NBA Finals, but their actual numbers are dwarfed the the Super Bowl. A lot of this is spin. But if the WNBA numbers actually do increase, then sure, more money would be coming.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It'd probably be dominated by the men.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

While you do make a fair point...

I imagine the rules would be somewhat similar to my co-ed soccer rec league team. At least every third pass has to be to a girl etc etc.

There's ways to keep it competitive and fun for a co-ed non-contact sport. Not sure how that translates to any kind of professional setting though.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

For a recreational game, it's about having fun, so that rule works. I don't think it will work in competitive games. People watch them to see the players exhibiting skill and ability.

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