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[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago

Traditional GNU/Linux distributions (as well as F-Droid) are not "app stores" even though they are superficially similar. Traditional distributions are maintained and curated by the community, and serve the interests of users first and software developers second, whereas an "app store" has minimal curation and serves the needs of software developers first and users second.

I point this out because there's an annoying meme that traditional distributions are obsoleted by the "app store" model. I don't think that's the case. "Verification" is essential for an app store but pointless for a distribution.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So all of them?

Would be nice if FlatHub actually supported cryptographic verification of apps..

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Flathubs repository’s is GPG signed.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Nope. Link me to the docs that say this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The GPG key is literally in the repo file https://dl.flathub.org/repo/flathub.flatpakrepo

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Lol that's not for signing the packages

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There is no such thing as a “package”. It is a repository of binary data with references to data in it (ala git). The whole repo and all data is gpg signed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Your claim that package payloads are signed is bullshit. Back it up by citing your sources

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
> ostree show flathub:runtime/org.kde.Platform/x86_64/6.6
commit a7443e846cf67d007fcecda5c9dc27844001cfb8929064395cfc25c6d71d9474
Parent:  23107550082daf3b2892a4a0db2543838578ca882340a756b988bc5c1614540c
ContentChecksum:  607ba9475d32a24c51509bc7919f5a93d401f8f7198c30ad93ad74051d966c41
Date:  2024-01-30 13:55:08 +0000

    build of org.kde.Sdk, Tue Jan 30 11:23:00 UTC 2024 (5998d2f3ef21414d14f066ab91fa44e5aef65b90)

    Name: org.kde.Platform
    Arch: x86_64
    Branch: 6.6
    Built with: Flatpak 1.14.4

Found 1 signature:

  Signature made Tue 30 Jan 2024 12:21:18 PM CST using RSA key ID 562702E9E3ED7EE8
  Good signature from "Flathub Repo Signing Key <[email protected]>"
  Primary key ID 4184DD4D907A7CAE
  Key expires Mon 14 Jun 2027 08:19:40 AM CDT
  Primary key expires Mon 14 Jun 2027 08:18:56 AM CDT
[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And what happens if I mitm you and you get something unsigned? Does it ignore it and proceed?

This is why in asking for the docs that describe the security

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

GPG errors are fatal unless you manually configure the repo to ignore them with an obscure command.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

Please link to the docs

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