wow who would have thought
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Conservatism is a deadly, contagious social disease that destroys entire cultures.
In Afghanistan, we can see the natural, final stage of conservatism. This is what the future holds for any country that cannot offer sufficient resistance to this disease.
Well, 20 years and what have we learned:
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If you invade a nation with no solid national identity that prefers tribal identity, you're going to have to stay to build that national identity.
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To build that national identity you'll need to stay until a whole generation has gone through the new way of life you have made: born, went to school, got a job, got married, had some kids, grew old, and died. The new way of life needs to be the only way of life in living memory.
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So you're talking about a minimum of 100 years of occupation.
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If you pull out too soon because back home the appetite for a foreign deployment has wained, don't get surprised when the old way comes back.
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Guerrilla fighting is super effective in the long run.
Great post. I'll just quibble with one word. It took 20 years to re-learn what most of our ancestors knew well. It isn't enough to occupy a country. If you want to replace an ancient tribal culture, you have to remove that culture's elites, colonize and farm the land with your own citizens more or less permanently, put down any resistance violently, and then support the colony until it finally assimilates the existing population or is assimilated by it. All of the ancient empires did that when they could, Europe did it during the age of colonization where feasible. The Arabs did it during the Islamic conquest. China has done it throughout their long history. Russia is the largest country on Earth because it colonized all of the indigenous cultures from the Ural Mountains to the Pacific Ocean during the conquest of Siberia. The Soviet Empire tried to do it to Eastern Europe too with their Russification programs, but weren't able to stay long enough because the Soviet Empire was destroyed after only 45 years.
The US was never going to colonize Afghanistan. It was folly to believe that Afghanistan was going to adopt western values in a mere 20 years of occupation.
That sounds like you announcing you cured HIV by simply shooting the infected. It might be true in one sense but even if that worked the cure is worse than the disease.
I really don't want any country involved in genocide
Well I mean, that's an effective cure, though just make sure to incinerate the remains so the virus has less chances to survive. /S
Traditional values
Horror from those of us who aren’t going to get stoned to death.
Terror from those who are.
Important to understand the distinction between these emotions.
Honest good faith question: what can the international community do?
Colonize the land in the name of oil /s
Maybe accept migrants from Afghanistan?
This is, IMO, the only true answer to many of the atrocities we see across the world.
I think that western countries should look to improve their infrastructure for the inevitable future where more people choose to live in Europe and North America.
Yeah, if we really care about improving people's lives we should let people make the choice to come to countries where they will have rights. If enough people leave, eventually countries will have to start changing their policies. Inflicting centuries of war and colonialism seems more about big countries having access to land and resources.
Drone strike a wedding party. Final offer
It depends. What are you willing to sacrifice to get something done?
Nothing because it has no actual power. What have they done with regards to the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Ukraine or Palestine?
Sadly but it's all about selfish (state) interests, not human rights at all. Nothing new.
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What a world. Where something funny like that could be so close to being truth to life far from a sarcastic joke. We gotta do something about human rights to straighten up his ship. We need abortion and women's rights back. We need religion out of schools and government offices. We need kids to get fed well and be available for free and open education. We need software to be opensource for technology to thrive and begin bearing fruit.
But we're just so far from any of that it feels defeating.
Just because no one holds you accountable for doing it, how can you justify being sick and evil enough to want to flog or stone somebody. What is going on with these middle eastern assholes?? Is it something in the water they drink or the food they eat that turns these bigoted males into such flagrantly mentally abberant pieces of utter walking dog shit??
Well, my advice is, if you're a middle-eastern woman, arm yourself any way you can and strike first. Throw the first stone, you might just crush the worthless skull of one of these misogynistic women-hating anti-human pieces of maggot infested filth, and do the world an immense favor.
It's a few thousand years of the most regressive patriarchal pastoralist bullshit going on. It's the culture and the religion, they go together. And I'm not referring just to Islam.
Do you actually think that? That an Afghan woman arming herself with rocks world have a good outcome? Just seems like a really, really dumb thing to say.
I expect that kind of reply from a woman-hating and self-hating person like you. So, I don't really value your opinion very much.
Epic burn.
Akhundzada said: “We will flog the women … we will stone them to death in public [for adultery].
“You may call it a violation of women’s rights when we publicly stone or flog them for committing adultery because they conflict with your democratic principles,” he said, adding: “[But] I represent Allah, and you represent Satan.”
Ah, the good old argument from "I'm just right and you're wrong, OK?" with a garnish of "The Creator of the universe told me I'm great and said you suck." Please may I never be this certain of anything.
So Satan is a nicer dude than Allah?
Both are equally imaginary
He's technically true in the last part though
When you can back up your arguments with the threat of death, you get used to saying bullshit and not having it challenged.
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