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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Every goddamn time I try to use GIMP I end up making a series of stupid minor errors because it uses non-standard keybosrd shortcuts (why is the default DESELECT hotkey not CTRL+D like in every other program with selection tools) or some other esoteric decision of hiding something in 3 menus or calling a tool by a different name to everyone else, then end up re-pirating Photoshop, not needing either for a while, deleting Photoshop cuz "well I'll learn GIMP eventually", repeat

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Just get Krita already!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I just want native Linux support in Affinity, which is both better than Photoshop AND reasonably priced.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

I haven't used Photoshop; learned basic photo editing in GIMP (as a poor student, I appreciated a powerful, free editor). So, no complaints about the UI from me. If anything, I'd probably bitch about the Photoshop UI if I ever used it.

One thing that concerns me a little, however, is the third-party integration with Nik Collection. The second version, which I'm still using, was provided for free by Google. They later sold the software, and the new company commercialized it. I found it difficult to track down the v2 installer, so I'm now keeping it on multiple backups, in multiple locations, as one of my most treasured software possessions.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

I recommend Lazpaint if you want something that's significantly faster and lighter, though not as feature rich and nothing like Photoshop, interface wise.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

Lots of people who wanted to have photoshop for free salty about the menu layout being different in GIMP.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 5 months ago (4 children)

GIMP is great but it definitely needs its own Blender 3.0 moment where they just completely overhaul the UI.

I've used it as my primary raster app so I'm way used to it now, but I totally understand the people who just never even bother to learn it because they are so turned off by the absolutely bonkers design decisions.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

The thing is, it's virtually useless for any real colour work, as it's rotten from the core.

So it needs:

  1. Completely overhauled UI
  2. New name
  3. Complete rewrite of the core from bottom up.

I hate to say it, but it's probably more efficient to start fresh.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But it did get a UI overhaul a few years back. Seems good enough

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Yeah, I learned to do what I need to do and if they ever change the UI now, I will forever be stuck with the version prior to that. I am NOT relearning the interface.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

The damn thing was written by a couple of College Students who had no experience with graphic arts and man does it show. The UI has been the number #1 complaint since the 1.0 release back in 1998; how it's never been updated / overhauled is simply beyond me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Why? Looks basically the same as photoshop, which everybody seems to love.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Among other things:

  • monochrome color scheme prevents easy recognition of tools
  • dozens and dozens of arcane options listed alongside super basic options
  • weird sizing of buttons
  • no help search, and no search that can associate synonyms where users don't know what term to search for
  • no inbuilt suggestions when user behaves strangely (eg. user is spamming the escape key, searching "deselect", maybe suggest the deselect all hotkey?)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You can change the icon theme in the settings to a color one. That's what I always do. The scaling can be changed as well.

May I ask what are some of the arcane options supposed to be?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

How do you change scaling of buttons?

what are some of the arcane options supposed to be?

Not at PC for a few days but IIRC I was overwhelmed whenever going through any drop down menu.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Edit > Preferences > Interface > Icon Theme > Custom icon size

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

Newer versions of Photoshop have like 8 buttons and a toolbar which is terrible imo.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

It looks good to me...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

It is? How so?

Sorry for asking, I've used gimp forever, but I learned on photoshop. Its been a while since I switched, but I don't remember having any real issues learning gimp

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (3 children)

With recent Affinity acquisition by Canva, I wish more and more people try GIMP. But GIMP developer should match their UI layout to industry standard.

People from Photoshop, Affinity Photo, CSP, and other tools are confused with non vertical tool box.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's open source. Support the devs or help out yourself.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I do, but in a different way. I generally report bugs or triaging bugs.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Is this a joke? If someone can't correlate a square box full of tools with a rectangular box full of tools then I'm surprised they managed to turn their computer on.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I mean that is basically what people's UI complaints usually boil down to: things are in different places than where I'm used to.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I'm pretty sure majority of people will understand once they try GIMP, but first impression of familiarity do effect people's retention.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

But GIMP developer should match their UI layout to industry standard.

People have been asking for that since at least 1998 so I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for it to happen.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Sometime in the 90s:

"What are we gonna call it?"

"GNU Image Manipulation Program/GIMP. Huehuehuehue. trollface

"Yeah sure, whatever, it's not like millions are going to end up using this thing."

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Green is my pepper. 🫑🫑🫑

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago

"Yeah sure, whatever, it’s not like millions are going to end up using this thing.”

Literally. GIMP started as homework back in 1995 for two College Programmers who didn't want to write a compiler in scheme/lisp.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

More like "huehuehue, millions are going to use this thing!"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

The ONE program I miss from Windows is paint․net.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Same. I used Paintdotnet for years and actually do miss it in Linux.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Try KolourPaint

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

At least for me, there wasn't an equivalent replacement.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

I have not but I installed the flatpak. I'll give it a go next time I need to make fun of someone. :p

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It's just not the same man.

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