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submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Just wondering if anyone does this. I occasionally find food that expired yesterday. Of course it’s still safe to eat but the shop has no choice but to trash it. So why not nick it?

And what if you get caught? Do they care that you were stealing something they had to waste? The value is zero. You’ve only cheated them out of accurate book keeping.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

To a capitalist, there is no good shoplifting. Nobody's going to check the expiration dates on what you stole before arresting you. You took stuff off their shelves that they could have sold - come on, do you really think stores pull expired product the day it expires? - and that makes you the bad guy.

Conversely, to an anarchist, there is no bad shoplifting. Why should it matter if the store owner could make a profit off the item or not? If you're willing to steal from the owner you've already decided you don't care about his profits 😆

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

To a capitalist, there is no good shoplifting.

You’ve misunderstood the thesis of the post.

Nobody’s going to check the expiration dates on what you stole before arresting you.

Only cops can make an arrest where I am and there is only an occasional security contractor at the shops.

You don’t think the moment store staff sees and reacts that I will be able to get a word in edgewise about the date before police even arrive? You don’t think the value of stolen goods are relevant when a judge enters a judgment amount?

You took stuff off their shelves that they could have sold

Nonsense. Not in the face of the law.

I once asked if I could get the zero waste pricing on something that was a day past expiry. They confiscated the food from me and told me they cannot sell it to me. Don’t you think it might be illegal for a grocer to knowingly and willfully sell expired food? Do you think they would actually try to present as an argument to a judge that they could have sold something that expired?

In the US, I once discovered I bought several things that expired and brought it back because I was not happy to pay regular price for expired food. They would not negotiate a markdown but took it back and refunded the price I paid times two, and the CSR asked me to bring her to where that item was so she could remove the other expired packages.

come on, do you really think stores pull expired product the day it expires?

You either have an absurd amount of confidence in their competency or an unrealistic and unhealthy presumption of malice toward customers by min wage workers just trying to get through their day. I’ve seen enough to know that they pull items when they notice. I sometimes see them carting off food and marking down food near expiry. They don’t have an inventory system that tracks expiration dates and sends notifications. This isn’t Wal·Mart -- It’s a manual human effort to check all those dates which are not well visible. The reason food makes it to the date of expiry is because they sometimes miss things days earlier that they need to mark down 30%. I’m not sure how to convince you there is no conspiracy. They are busy. I never see them standing around or idling.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I think in general this will be treated pretty similarly to stealing unexpired food.

But this reminds me of dumpster diving, which atleast in some regions and some circumstances is actually legal.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's impossible to steal food, regardless. 🤷

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I really hope my supermarket believes this too!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Why do you care what they think?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

I imagine such a mindset makes it easier for me (and others) to steal food