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There’s one government in Canada that’s actually beating back the housing crisis, and it’s not Justin Trudeau’s Liberals or Doug Ford’s Conservatives (www.thestar.com)
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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

The NDP is doing the best job in the country for housing affordability but I don't see any metric in the article that quantifies it.

In itself this statement is incorrect.

These policies are making housing more affordable in real time for British Columbians.

The issue with any regional housing affordability improvement is the fact that it is regional and the benefits are not limited to locals. If BC magically halved our housing prices tomorrow it would return to high prices within months with the induced demand. I don't see a solution where affordability is not collectively fixed in this country.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

2 min to read

Oh, I guess that really was the whole thing then. I'm sympathetic to the premise that BC might be doing better than Ontario recently in housing policy, but it's unclear how much cherry-picking was involved in finding that one data point. Considering how far prices had risen out West it's going take more than that to convince me that they're "beating it back."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Prices out west were beyond ridiculous far before the current NDP government.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

The housing market in Swift fucking Current, Saskatchewan, is comparable in real dollars to St Petersburg, Florida, just outside Miama.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Yeah that was sort of my point. To say anything meaningful about it you have to look at the longer-term context, not just the latest single housing starts number.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (3 children)

It's almost like the NDP say what they want to do and then do it.

Remind me why we split the vote between them and the Liberals again?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

NDP are just as crooked as the Conservative and Liberal parties, they have just never had the a chance to stretch their legs.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

This is BCs provincial NDP, which may or may not be ideologically in sync with the federal NDP. Its a difficult thing to determine as they campaign on different issues typically, but as BCs liberal party was its acting conservative party i tend to look at our parties as shifted one to the right. It tends to follow a lot closer to the federal voting patterns that way.

Edit: that being said i did vote for them

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Well, in Ontario it's because "Rae Days" or something like that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Always love that argument

NDP did one thing I didn't like in the 90s and now I'll never vote for them

Conservatives do shitty things over and over but I'll give them a chance .... again

Liberals do shitty things over and over but I'll give them a chance .... again

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It wasn’t even a bad thing

They just think the Ontario NDP caused a global recession

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Maybe they've noticed over time what actually happens when the conservatives, liberals or ndp are in charge during bad worldwide times. You definitely want a Harper not a Trudeau for conditions of the last ten years. yknow, a fucking economist.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Harper isn’t a good example, he destroyed our economy

Our deficit and military still haven’t recovered from him

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Lol. Fuck I'll just make shit up too why not.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The only year he didn’t add to the deficit was his last and he’s the only PM to go under 1% GDP military spending

Sources

Economy

Military

But feel free to keep making things up

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

None of the candidates are strong either.

Most people my age don't even know what the fuck Rae Days were. We didn't live through it, but we're living through a housing and affordability crisis and the only people talking about doing anything about it are the NDP.

Unfortunately we don't go out and vote, which is why the lowest voter turnout in history enabled the Ford victory.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Makes sense. Despite what Conservatives across the country have been saying. Provincial governments are the best positioned to actually solve housing related problems.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Only if you pretend the problem is lack of housing not insane immigration. Maybe importing carpenters instead of truckers and counter staff would help.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Federal governments have the ability to build a massive amount of social housing and related infrastructure in conjunction with provincial and municipal governments.

They are just ideologically opposed to it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The trouble is "in conjunction" the federal government has seemed willing to help fund this sort of thing for years. But provincial governments have no interest in doing anything.

This is why the federal government has started bypassing the provinces to work directly with municipalities.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Yes, true, and as I mentioned the cons and libs are ideologically opposed to risking the uppermid property equity of their main supporters.

However cf. the housing co-op initiatives of the 70's and 80's and other initiatives that don't require the provinces.