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The Met has a mixed record. It's famous Temple was rescued with coordination from Egypt from flooding at the creation of the Anwar Dam.
Also you probably wouldn't want to leave stuff in a museum in Ukraine where ruzzians are trying to commit genocide....a Gaza where the Israeli government is trying to do the same with the help of us in the USA....not me particularly or anyone I know, it's the fucking government making a huge mistake and ever so slowly correcting itself as popular opinion differs from it... I said enough.
It's not always the foreigner who stealing it tho. Sometimes it's the natives (thieves) who stealing the artifacts to sell, even as souvenirs on the street.
Egyptian thieves even sell mummy as souvenirs.
We have been doomed as a species since forever eh?
Maybe that’s why this whole timeline seems cursed.
Don't bring this up with British people. They have brainrot from decades and decades of conservative propaganda, even if they are otherwise left-leaning, and will often result in the stupidest arguments just because they haven't bothered to spend 5 minutes to think about them.
Most people over here are pro-returning artifacts. It's just that it's a common anti-British talking point and not many people actually have the agency affect what happens with the artifacts, so eventually it just gets frustrating to hear about all the time.
Unnecessarily insulting and broad statement there.
I'm British, visited an anthropology museum last week and left feeling angry. Give it all back.
Good on you!
Or, you know, they just agree that the artifacts should just be returned.
Generalising across a while group, let alone a nationality, is just plain dumb
Fair enough. It's just incredibly disheartening to find how certain kinds of chauvinistic attitudes that belong in the 19th century are so widespread even amongst people I expected would know better.
If there was an artifact that was meant to go to a museum id rather have it go to one where the most people can see and enjoy a piece of my areas history rather than set it up in a case in a third world country shack
well maybe that historical piece would be a great benefit to the economy of that third world nation and they could grow and thrive and not be third world country anymore
Well lemmy knows best I have you know that lemmy last week told me that they only reason anyone goes to Thailand is for hookers. When I pointed out all the amazing historical stuff to see there, and included pictures of some of it, the group mind insisted that I was wrong and they knew the truth.
I doubt that. But it should still be that country's choice as to where to display their artifact. The person above you is making sense in general but missing the point in this context.
Friendly reminder that museums have artifact exchange programs regularly. So not ALL the artifacts are stolen. Some are just on loan.
Though if you're in London, chances are the object was stolen
As a chilean, I must say, return the moai, or else face delicious recipes on your feed.
Because we were stronger
Give them back their shit you imperialist swine
*our shit, comrade
..."swine"?
oink oink
Why are the pyramids in Egypt?
Because they wouldn't fit on the boat back to Britain.
They just feels like a failure of the imagination. Load them block by block
Didnt stop the british from stealling a multi tonne statue. Fun fact the base is still in egypt. Because the British couldnt figure out how to move it.
The British are absolutely asking for a Night At The Museum type situation with the sheer amount of mummies and other Egyptian artifacts they have in the British Museum.
Went there recently. It's pretty insane
To see other cultures? What use would it have in the country where hundreds more of it are around?
With consent, I'd agree with this take. If it has never been asked about, there's always today. Who to ask? Well... Let's let these expensive museum administrators earn their keep.
The reality is those graves and artifacts were being hunted and sacked for thousands of years for all kinds of purposes (mostly steal whatever they could, to melt the gold and sell the gems) as soon they stopped being actively guarded or cared for, or their religious value diminished along with the religion that they were made for.
More than that, surrounding people kept on repurposing materials from the temples to build other structures.
Every new empire that took over their land would plunder whatever value they could find to fund their army and enrich themselves.
This long term view of history of artifacts of old empires as something to be preserved at all costs, let alone in their country of origin is rather new - hell, the idea of a nation state is rather new.
Where are the ancient museums that were preserving artifacts of older civilisations?
Now, should they be given back close to their place of origin and historical context? My modern sensibilities say absolutely.
But I can hardly call the people that took them for the sake of inflating their social standing and preserving them in the process of displaying them in their collections special kind of assholes than anyone that came before them that wanted only to melt them down for cash - it was an improvement if only because were not as desperate as the people before them.
