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Critics must rescore Dragon's Dogma 2 in light of microtransactions (www.downtimebros.com)

submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 7 months ago (7 children)

Out of the 25 English language reviews of Dragon’s Dogma 2‘s PC version on Metacritic, only two mention the microtransactions.

What the fuck.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (5 children)

thats part of the reason why i stopped trusting reviewers

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[+] [email protected] -73 points 7 months ago (3 children)

This is all much to do about nothing. It's all stuff you get in the deluxe addition and right underneath says - "Items in this set can also be purchased separately. Please be aware of duplicate purchases." This sounds like people trying to find a problem where none exists.

The Deluxe Edition includes the base game and the add-on "A Boon for Adventurers - New Journey Pack".

A Boon for Adventurers - New Journey Pack:

Explorer's Camping Kit - Camping Gear
Dragon's Dogma Music & Sound Collection - Custom Sounds
Harpysnare Smoke Beacons - Harpy Lure Item
Heartfelt Pendant - A Thoughtful Gift
Ambivalent Rift Incense - Change Pawn Inclinations
Makeshift Gaol Key - Escape from gaol!
Art of Metamorphosis - Character Editor
Wakestone - Restore the dead to life! (A)
1500 Rift Crystals - Points to Spend Beyond the Rift (A)

[–] [email protected] 45 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Why does a single player game have mtx at all? I just don't get the point of it.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

To distract from the shitty anti-cheat they have installed.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Missing a /s?
Maybe I'm missing the obvious sarcasm, but why in the hell does a deluxe versions exist? You done screwed up your game if the game play is so tedious I want to pay for in game credits (rift crystals) instead of earn them. Hey they put in time sucks so bad your going to want to pay to make them go away instead of play the game.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You don't have a problem with the game having purchasable fast travel and locking a character editor behind the pay wall?

[+] [email protected] -11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It isn't locked behind a paywall, it costs 500 RC which you can get by literally not playing the game and having your pawn get hired by somebody. You get a fuckton of it just by playing. I'm mad because of how not only is the mtx clearly done by higher ups rather than the devs but they're utterly useless and only give people false impressions about the game, which was a passion project by the director.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

having your pawn get hired by somebody

Can your pawn get hired if you play this single player game offline? You don't think that maybe the fact that they were going to sell rift crystals for real life money had any impact on how they balanced in game prices?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

It's the easiest way to get it but you can collect a lot of it simply through playing the game as well, you earn rift crystals after every fight and it starts to really pile up as you level considering the only thing it's spent on is remaking your character and hiring pawns (in the first game at least, there may be more uses in the second)

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 7 months ago (1 children)

How and why companies do this, I don't understand. Way to kill what would've been a great game

[–] [email protected] 33 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Money. Even if 5 people scream and get a refund or don't buy it there will be 100 that don't care and just pay. It's the same with every bad thing like preorder, dlc after dlc, microtransactions for cosmetics more expensive than an full title indie game or pay to win in a full price triple a game (like star wars battlefront 2). In the end the group of people just buying is bigger.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 7 months ago

I refunded it because it ran like shit. This just makes me even sadder.

[–] [email protected] 159 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Holy shit, micro transactions for fast travel? What the fuck

[–] [email protected] 162 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (6 children)

From a review:

The explorers camping kit is probably the most egregious of the "DLC" So to explain, as you and your pawns battle you take damage, take enough damage and there is a portion of your HP you can't recover with magic or items. So you'll either have to go rest at an inn or find a bonfire to set up camp. To make camp you'll need the camping supplies item, the ones I have found so far are very heavy in weight, which means your party won't have much space for loot. The explorers camping kit DLC will give you 1 camping supply and make the "explorers camping kit" available to purchase within the in-game shops, and it will be much lighter in weight than the normal camping supplies. Capcom have purposely made the experience far more tedious than it need be in their fully priced AAA game so we would spend the extra money on their quality of life DLC.

Fuck this game.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Wait a minute, hold up, this wasn't in the game unless you have that?

[–] [email protected] 37 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It is, afaik all the microtransactions are available in game, most of them are even very very easily available. Capcom has been doing this for years in all their games, even Monster Hunter Rise has the character edit voucher bullshit, but people have finally called them out for it.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This is literally "make the Battlefield player pay money to reload their gun."

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[+] [email protected] -71 points 7 months ago (4 children)

You can just use ingame items

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

Bet those ingame items would be easier to get if there weren’t MTX.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Its a full price game, it shouldnt have microtransactions

[–] [email protected] 67 points 7 months ago (3 children)

"You can just have a significantly worse experience"

People paid $80 or more for this game, basic QoL improvements should not cost 42 real life dollars

[+] [email protected] -35 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's not significantly worse, the tent is the only item in the mtx that even has any benefit over the shit available in game. Even the fast travel item you can get the maximum number in-game and need to use a consumable that isn't even in the mtx every time you want to fast travel to it. This game and it's devs aren't the actual issue, it's the people running Capcom that insist on putting bullshit mtx in every game since the first dragons dogma.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 months ago (1 children)

In the case of the tent, the devs are actually the issue. They knew that they were going to sell a lighter tent when they released the game. If you don't think the existence of a lighter tent that you can pay real life money for had any impact on how much the base game tents weigh, then I have a bridge to sell you.

[+] [email protected] -30 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It's the same experience that was in the first game. It's not worse, it's the intended experience.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

The "intended experience" is worse than the Super Deluxe Golden Platinum Edition experience. Do you really believe they didn't design this game to incentivise these purchases? For one example, do you really think the fact that they sell rift crystals for real life actual dollars had no impact on their decisions for the cost of hiring pawns? Do you honestly believe that the fact that they sell lighter camping equipment had no impact on how much they made the base game camping equipment weigh? If they think it's worth a couple dollars to get slightly lighter camping equipment, why didn't they just reduce the weight of camping equipment?

Do you think that maybe the decision to have one save file per player and the decision to sell a single use character redesign item might be related?

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Yeah this should be the standard right here

This echo 64 guy really understands what gamers want. The same fucking system from the last game.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The same system that had the majority of players begging for fast travel. They can blame the players all they want, but the fact remains that the game would be better if I didn't have to trek from one town to the next again and again and again and again and again. The main story of the first game takes about 32 hours to beat. How many of those hours are spent walking through areas you've already been through?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The last game didn't even have camping, you could just use items to heal past white health instead.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

And now you get to pay Money!!!!!1

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Or companies could stop fleecing basic gameplay features that have been a staple of games for many years behind a completely unnecessary pay wall. Somebody wants to use fast travel, give it to them. If they don't, keep the option available for those who want it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The fast travel is in the game, the mtx is a placable fast travel point of which you have a limit of 10. All 10 are findable in game and require you to use a limited consumable item that isn't in the mtx store every time you want to fast travel to it. The mtx are actually comically stupid decision from Capcom because they're unironically useless if you just play the base game and serve only to drag the games reputation through the mud.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You literally can, fast travel is a part of the game. And just like in the first game it's limited behind an item. It's is the exact same system the series has had for a decade. Just they let rich idiots skip the system.

Again, it's the same exact system that was in the first game

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (8 children)

They just let rich idiots skip the boring part, you mean. The main story in the first game takes about 32 hours to beat. How many of those hours are spent trekking through areas you've already been through before?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

That doesn't make it any better. That's effectively just making people pay to access developer and cheat codes. I can do that for free in Starfield with the press of a button and a short command.

It'd be like Mortal Kombat coming out and letting people pay real life money to do an easy fatality.

Oh wait.

There's no point for them to do this beyond simple greed. Nothing more.

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