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Not buying a shaver from Philips again.. (i.imgur.com)

submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Edit: see comments for clarifications.

I am probably late on this one, but god damn this is one nasty trick by Philips.

Context; I recently decided to upgrade my shaver, from a Philips One Blade to Philips an all-in-one-trimmer-7000. As you can see on the pictures below, they changed the charger for the adapter by maybe 1–2 millimetres, just so the old charger could not be used by the old charger. Now, this normally isn't a big deal, but with the new trimmer, the charger is USB-A only. Where's the previous one had the plug on it instead. To me this is mildly infuriating as I know need to get an extra adapter just to charge my shaver in the bathroom. They had the exact same design for the chargers, yet changed it just slightly so they wouldn't be able to be reused? Why... Philips... why?

Edit: many good points in the comments! I don't know how to manually check the voltage, but seems like folks figured it out in the comments too. Should have just been USB-C!

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 7 months ago (5 children)

The old cable supplies 15V, which would fry your shaver that is expecting 5V

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (6 children)

They all do this. Every time.

I’ll await the EU enforcing USB-C here too.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I saw a phone company make a trimmer, they used to do the same but now they are using USB c

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I have the cheapest Philips shaver. It is pretty mid. It came with its own charger. On the shaver's side it looks like a standard ungrounded 220V female connection. But it actually is some propriety DC thingy. Very annoying. Why not just use USB-C?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

cheapest Philips shaver

use USB-C

You can only pick one

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Isn't the standard a token amount of $1 or something for a license, I don't think price really comes into it.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Until recently the reason was waterproof ratings.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (5 children)

are the voltages actually the same?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I don't see how it could be. One plugs into line voltage and the other 5v usb. The reason they changed the plug size is probably to keep OP from frying his new razor.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

My travel trimmer takes a AA battery and I just keep a little USB charger for that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I've seen rechargeable batteries with micro USB ports in them so you can charge the battery directly, you don't even need a charger. I thought that was pretty nifty.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Could get those. Might be a good option for some. I just have a lot of rechargeables already for smoke alarms and clocks and what have you. I think I would find plugging in every battery individually to be more trouble. Even finding micro USB cables around the house is becoming a challenge.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Totally understand. I just wanted to mention them because I thought they were a cool idea. I don't own any myself, just standard rechargeables. That said, most of my devices that take AA batteries last so long at this point that I rarely have to change them. I'm guessing a shaver is a lot more power-hungry than most though.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I use Soocas ET2. Maybe it's not the best trimmer, but at least it's super convinient and nice looking. I bought it for 30 €.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

that's the last electronic item they make without licencing out their brand

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Nice of then to make sure you cant accidentally blow up your new razor because you assumed the old cable would work if it fit.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

So infuriating that they would send you a charger that works with the device 😤😤 how fucking dare they

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago (6 children)

God, why don't they just make it usb-c PD and be done with it?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Here's my only issue with making everything in the world USB-C...

Different cables have different functions or even are able to handle different voltages and amperage and right now, it's not clear what cable holds what functionality.

If there were some sort of international color code standard or something, it would be perfect. As of now, I have to keep track of what cable goes with what device.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago

This style of connector wedges itself watertight, so there's that

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If they are the same voltage just take a razor and shave some of the material away, I had to do this to get a c7 connector to fit into my xbox one, the rubber was just molded too far to fit

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Shave

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

All that shaving just to shave.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I can tell you for certain, I measured my plug phiips (foil and 'one') and they are both 14VDC. So short answer is that the plug charger would blow up the usb trimmer you have (which is 5VDC).

The reason I know this and measured them, was because I wasnt sure the two plug chargers were the same, and I didnt want to blow up my philips one.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Also the charger is required to show its voltage and amperage output ratings.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

This is true, but something about being an Electronics Engineer makes you want to check. (I didn't even trust Philips to get it right, but they did.)

I didn't go into detail, but simple Dashed/Solid line doesn't tell you the whole story. Those simple wall warts are not fancy switch mode, or even old school rectified. I measured 14VDC unloaded, which I can probably guestimate in experience, to be a 9VDC loaded reading.

The actual reading on wallwarts are generally untrustworthy, unless its a thing from Samsung or apple, where the circuitry are what you would expect (switched etc).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Remington also have different plugs for different models.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

My Philips shaver does not work whilst charging. What's that all about?

Luckily the battery is good but it gives very little warning when its about to run out. I dont grow facial hair very quickly or very thickly but several times I've had to leave the house partially shaved. Doesn't make any sense. That's the whole point of electricity, to use stuff whilst plugged in!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Some of the older models work while charging. For example the MG7790 or MG7750/49 (not to be confused with the new version 7910/49).

The reason I know this is because I recently bought one from amazon specifically because I want it to work while plugged in but they sent me one that doesn't (MG7770). I sent it back and now waiting for the correct one to be delivered.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Wet/dry shavers can't be used while charging because some moron will use it in the shower while plugged in. That's what the instruction booklet essentially said for my oneblade

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Ah fair enough. This never occurred to me as we dont have a power socket in the bathroom. Also I'm a typical man so didn't bother to read the instruction manual.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Yeah that's a regulatory requirement in some regions

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