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This is another post that alerted me of this.

https://lemmy.world/post/13287681

And here is the modlog:

https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=ModRemoveCommunity

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[–] [email protected] 202 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (46 children)

Why are people joining .world to begin with? The entire point of this is to decentralize. Joining the by far largest instance beats the entire purpose.

Join smaller ones like lemmy.one, lemmy.club, lemmings.world, lemmy.zip etc. We might need to start specifically recommending against .world and for general purpose instances like those.

Also, funny how even reddit allows r/Piracy but not .world lol

[–] [email protected] 69 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Why are people joining .world to begin with?

Because how it works when you first join is very confusing, and why you would choose any particular server is not clear at all.

Also, people want to join something that is bigger and more active because it feels like it would be better (more stable, more content, etc.)

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[–] [email protected] 103 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Sync had Lemmy.world as the default instance to register a new account (might still be the case, I'm not sure). One of the factors for sure.

[–] [email protected] 95 points 8 months ago (2 children)

So does Voyager, Raccoon, and Eternity. Everything is just defaulting to it and it's infuriating.

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 8 months ago (4 children)

The dev really needs to change that then.

Perhaps have a system of selecting randomly from a set of hand-picked general purpose instances at sign-up, where having less people gives it a higher chance of being picked (if it's of at least a certain size of course, to prevent spam etc)

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 8 months ago

Because they actually just want to still be on reddit.

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[–] [email protected] 93 points 8 months ago (4 children)

.world is just the worst parts of Reddit. Even fucking Reddit hasn't banned r/Piracy (yet)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (9 children)

Why would Reddit ban it? It's an easy way for them to collect users' IP addresses for their corporate overlords.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 51 points 8 months ago

Would be a good time to finally leave .world behind. That instance is way too big

[–] [email protected] 43 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Another reason why I like Fediverse

If Lemmy.world would have full control over it, this community would just get banned, but there's more and it is still accessable from all other places

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 8 months ago (1 children)

A few of the bigger instances have been very open about the fact that they're anti-piracy, anti-porn, etc and removing this community is par for the course with such a stance.

What does that mean for the average user? It means there's more incentive to move to better instances. It's when instances have such a monopoly on users and communities that people should not only move, but advocate for other people moving to smaller instances.

Also a major benefit of not being federated by large instances is that there's less surface area for search engines and thus resources last longer.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

Imo the issue here is that how Lemmy works right now, or maybe just its apps, seems to have the trend of pushing most people onto the largest instance(s) like .world

If the point of the Fediverse is to have a decentralized userbase, that trend needs to be reversed.

Even if we give .world admins the benefit of the doubt and say they got in legal trouble or something this time, having a userbase properly spread across many instances would prevent that instance from being the obvious target.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (4 children)

If we're to have any chance at convincing more Reddit users to join the Fediverse, the main Lemmy and Kbin instances need to stick together. While the piracy community being among the biggest arguably doesn't make for great optics (having a greater variety of communities above the 50k user mark would help bring more users to Lemmy), a fragmented federation only helps Reddit. Beyond that, this community has rules in place to ensure that posts stick to the discussion of piracy, and not piracy itself.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 8 months ago (6 children)

While the piracy community being among the biggest arguably doesn't make for great optics

I'd argue otherwise. It is great optics to have a thriving piracy community. It keeps the corporate boot lickers out, and attracts the kind of crowd that we should want on Lemmy.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Defederation really should be last resort, a lot of admin use it as a first one. (Even dbzer0 censors 187 instances)

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

But a federation is fragmentation. If the only thing that doesn't help reddit is another centralized system, then that's really just a claim that private ownership of the internet is good, actually, so long as we like the owners.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago

A disunited federation is still a federation.

AFAIK, lemmy.world cannot remove [email protected] (but block this community or instance), because lemmy.world is another instance.

Pirates interested in this communities will find a way to lurk or participate.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

Sigh. At least the benefits of federation include being free to move into other instances while LW can pull stuff like this (probably because they get the heat from being the largest instance).

[–] [email protected] 57 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Lemmy.world is the stupidest instance around

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Indeed. In my opinion, it's called lemmy.world but it's too US centric to have the .world domain.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (3 children)

A paranoidal schizophrenic and a single dev of Temple OS thought thar he's watched and messed with by federal agencies. He knew, because he could see a glowing aura around them undercover agents. After his ramblings about it, 4chan boards users who watched his streams as a lolcow (a person of interest who can be milked for lulz) took this slang term from him. Then it spread everywhere.

Down the Rabbit Hole episode about him and his slow sad demise: https://youtu.be/UCgoxQCf5Jg?si=JlPs70O5gQCvau2z

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

The CIA got him in the end.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It refers to how obvious undercover agents can be in online forums. So obvious that they glow

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[–] [email protected] 105 points 8 months ago (1 children)

average lemmy.world moment

being the biggest has it's problems

[–] [email protected] 38 points 8 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 134 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (13 children)

The speed that this happened suggests they might have gotten spooked by something. Put down the pitchforks mates and give them a chance to explain first.

EDIT: Welp, I expected an explanation by now...

EDIT2: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/16795373

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Wouldn't be surprised if they got some personally delivered letters from the legal department of a big media company, given that they blocked visibility to some magazines on other servers.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

I'm doubtful

[–] [email protected] 59 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If there's anything they should be spooked by, it's the pitchforks!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Ill take a pitchfork in the guts any day if it keeps me away from being a debt slave to Disney for the rest of my life.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

😞 🧑‍🌾

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Sigh.

On the up side, if anyone wants in, they are free to create accounts on other instances

[–] [email protected] 35 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Indeed, especially with 0.19 that allows you to migrate your subs and block lists in two clicks

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

The part that annoys me is that this was done silently even though last time they said they would ask their users. Hopefully it was just an admin that didn't get the last memo.

Edit: the community -> their users

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

I suspect something involving law enforcement or legal. Still would love if LW admins updated on this.

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