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[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"The Linux Problem" = "Not enough people using it for us to care"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's a public line. It's BS. Sweeny has been actively trying to torpedo gaming on Linux for YEARS. I don't know if it's just "Steam is good for Valve so it's bad for me", or if it goes deeper than that, but it's obvious in the last decade of behaviour.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

IDK, Unreal Engine runs on Linux, can export to Linux, and the Unreal Tournament games are released on Linux.

I really don't think he hates Linux, I believe him that he didn't see a financial point in supporting it for their games. People seem willing to use Windows to play their games, so there's not a strong financial incentive to support another platform.

If you want Sweeney to change his mind, get more people to use Linux exclusively. Personally, I prefer to ignore him.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

IDK, Unreal Engine runs on Linux, can export to Linux, and the Unreal Tournament games are released on Linux.

You are cherry picking. What about EVERYTHING ELSE?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

What are you talking about? I'm merely showing that he has supported Linux in the past, and at least some of his companies products support it today (Unreal and EAC).

The reason EGS and Fortnite don't support Linux isn't because he hates Linux, but because he doesn't see profit in it. And I don't blame him, Linux probably isn't profitable in the short or medium term for EGS or Fortnite.

Steam didn't start supporting Linux because they saw short or medium term profit, it was a long term investment to keep an option open in case Windows was able to force stores to share profit on their platform. Now that Windows has kind of backed off that, they're doubling down because the Steam Deck provides another option to increasing sales and appealing to more people.

I don't hate Tim Sweeney for not supporting Linux, but I am a bit disappointed though. But if Linux gains enough marketshare (not sure how much we'd need, but maybe 5%?), he'll likely change his mind. He's interested in profit, and Linux just isn't an attractive enough platform for that right now for EGS. Maybe that'll change in the future.

I have never and probably will never give EGS any of my money, but that didn't mean I hate Sweeney or his products, it just means they provide no value to me, so I'm uninterested, much like he is with Linux.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

I love Lemmy, but it's quickly becoming a vacuum chamber of blind hate for certain people and topics.

While yah, some of that statement is bs. Not all of it is false.

Shit like "JusT ENabLE PRoTon!" Is ridiculously simplistic and not how anything works. Otherwise every game everywhere would just do it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

also why the fuck does Lego Fortnite require anticheat? it's a survival co-op, there's no competitive element, and yet from what I've read it still kicks you out when you're trying to play it on Linux.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Its to prevent piracy thats why and also to prevent modders from adding mods

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Piracy? The game is free?!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

They don't want pirates removing the slot machine monetization from their game for children.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Absolute BS, all they have to do is enable proton support and people will go out of their way to play it. Tim Sweeney is simply being a slimy jackass.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Tim Sweeney is awesome. He’s one of the biggest conservation donors in my state and is personally responsible for permanently saving over 50,000 acres of land from development, protecting crucial habitat in a rapidly developing state, allowing public trail and nature preserves to get created. He lives in a normal house and drives a normal car and hikes the land he preserves when he’s not working. He’s a billionaire that lives a modest life, doesn’t mess with politics, and a true philanthropist. He doesn’t give to get press. The few articles out there about his philanthropy are because reporters stumble across it when reporting on whatever new nature preserve is opening in their area.

He might have some business practices that are problematic but are endemic to the industry.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Shhh. Tim said something the Internet disagrees with so we all have dog pile on him.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Doing good with one hand doesn't excuse using the other to smother FOSS progress. No matter how humble you are materially, or reasonable in local policy, that doesn't mean he is right in the many bullshit stances he's dug himself into where the games industry is concerned. He does have a point in some places, but holy shit is it hard to take him seriously when half the shit he gripes about other companies doing, Epic does too. And that's before we talk about the scummy BS only Epic does.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

hey look, a billionaire bootlicker, what are the odds

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Hey look everyone, this guy only sees black or white!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No, just defending someone that I know for a fact is a genuinely decent human being. He doesn't give a shit about burnishing his reputation through the philanthropy he does. He does it because he hates seeing billionaire mansions on mountaintops as much as anyone who isn't a fuck, because he wants everyone to have natural places to enjoy in the future. If you can't see the difference between someone like Sweeney and someone like Musk, DeVoss, etc., that's on you. He's not trying to make the world worse for everyone.

Do I have issues with the concentration of wealth and growing inequality in the US? Yes. If you gave me a list of billionaires, where I had to rank them in terms of their benefit to the world vs. negative impact to the world, would I put him high in benefit and low in negative impact? Yes. He's not spouting antisemitic nonsense, or trying to influence politics, or ruin education, or poison the minds of the American public. He's just running his business, treating his employees well, and preserving land. So if you want to call me a bootlicker for points, fine. Given the world we live in, I'd rather have our billionaires be like Sweeney instead of Musk or DeVoss.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

billionaire

genuinely decent human being

pick one

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Poor indie studio Epic games couldn't possible afford to support Linux, they only make about 5.6 billion a year and have a mere ~3000 employees, leave the little guy alone!