Because most people don't understand that developmental disabilities aren't always intellectual. Same reason a lot of people treat bind, deaf, or other physically disabled people like they are also intellectually disabled.
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because people look for indicators they recognise to assess intelligence and you don't fit their mental model as easily.
you could be cynical and say much of that presentation is manipulated and not a reliable indicator of intelligence, it's just that intelligent people are usually better at controlling their signals - unless they have difficulties with social nuances like us. you could also just shug and say you're different and they don't get it for a while, and that's fine too.
everyone is lazy and uses shortcuts to interpret a complex world. when you're different the shortcuts don't work and people make mistakes. they're also being lazy π¦₯
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That you have to do all of that for a driver's license is wild... physical and psychological evaluations?! For a drivers license?!
No, the examiner acused me of having an intelectual disability, just because I'm autistic.
This is for a regular drivers license, yea? The only way those evaluations make sense to me is if you were getting some kind of license to race on closed circuits/tracks.
Sorry you gotta deal with it, regardless!
Yes it was a regular driving test.
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Do you think the US system is better? Just let anyone and everyone drive 3 tons machines at speeds that would have been impossible to reach in any public mode of transportation 100 years ago?
I mean, the US has driving tests and written tests you have to pass....People don't walk into their state's Department of Motor Vehicles, say "1 license to drive please," and walk out without anyone checking to see if they're competent to drive a non-commercial vehicle.
Arguably they need to test people again once they're seniors, when mental decline can start. But that's another subject.
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Not everything is about the US, despite them living rent free in your head, apparently. Also, that's not at all how it works in the US. But dont let the truth get in the way or your hate boner.
It pretty much is how it works with how easy to get your license in some States!
And some provinces, too
It's a reason why I've not been actively pursuing a diagnosis. I'm managing it well and having a paper trail would just make some things more difficult.
Well I didn't want it, I have it since I remember.
I went through some similar issues at work. I'm pretty good when it comes to understanding technical stuff with their proper names and schematics, but I struggle awfully at understanding organisations (who to talk to when this issue arises, what to do when that stuff comes up, etc). I've been called disappointing because of it, yet as far as I can see I'm the most technically competent person on the team, by far.
It's really frustrating and I have to rely a lot on other people when it comes to organising.
Thankfully the guy I mainly work with is very understanding and helps me a ton on that.
This! People only see what you cant do compared to them while being oblivious to the stuff they themselves cant.
There is also this bias that just because your clearly clever one way (like dealing with patterns off massive data web displayed on a a 4k monitor) means you must be smart everywhere else.
βHey youβre smart, what is βmath equations using more then 4 different numbersββ¦. I have no short time memory and need a screen for everything . I cannot possibly hold 4 numbers in my head at the same time and calculate.
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Maybe you need to work on masking. Pretending to be a "normal" person to fit in is a big pain, and something I personally hate. But if you act "normal" when meeting new people, they will treat you like everyone else. It's tough to act this way but it might help you.
(It also sucks that we can't be accepted the way we are, but that's how the world is. As much as we might want to change the world, we also have to live in it as it is day to day)
Well, I think I am masking (very badly) and it effects my mental health.
That's fair. It's a tough one to balance of having good mental health and energy vs being able to exist in the world.
I have found that once I got out of school and college and things that I "have to" do, I've been able to create and find spaces where I'm able to be more authentically myself, which has definitely helped me. Hopefully you'll be able to find more of those spaces in time
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I wish people with autism didn't have to mask at all and could just be themselves
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Ye, what I usually do it mask until they treat me as an equal, then casually mention my ASD when it is relevant. I think it serves to normalize it without creating preconceptions.
I mentioned my autism to some of my friends. Some shame me and others are supportive, but nobody actually understands me.
Well, I dont think anyone can answer this definitively. But I recon its multiple things:
- autism is still widely unknown/not understood
- weβre just starting to see people advocating since more and more keep getting diagnosed
- teachers are often not autistic and/or come from a generation that frowns upon disclosure of medical information
- lots of prejudice
- since you have slovene as a language, I recon you might be from slovenia, which is in europe. Europe is far behind the US in autism advocacy and slovenia as part of the balkans could be even further behind (feel free to tell me otherwise if youβve ever visited france, germany or GB for example)
- autistics afaik often report problems with speaking their mind or explaining their thought process (which would include me) and therefore get underestimated
Those are just my thoughts and opinions. Nothing of this is proven fact and I am happy to stand corrected. Just trying to give some ideas of why this might be a unhappy coincidence.
You can always decide to change this and write up a lecture or speech which you can hold at some event if thats your cup of tea. You can then educate large amounts of people in a short timeframe. Good luck.
Yes I see the balkan influence in Slovenia. I feel even worse, because my father (also autistic) is on the doctor's side even tho he knows I'm not intelectually disabled (he even thinks I'm smart). He just doesn't want to question their authority.
On the unrelated note: I accidentaly said yes to a question I later learned it was partialy corelated with intelectual disability, so it might be my fault.
Its a dumpster fire all over the world and youβre not alone. Feel free to go into research and help clear up this idiocy.
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Maybe because you can't spel
I'm typing this on a phone and english is my second language. Sorry.
I don't think you need to apologize to that user. They were being rude and violated the community rules. We all make spelling mistakes. I make them all the time, and I'm a native English speaker. Don't worry too much about it unless you really want to π
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i thought we stopped doing this "i spell bad therefore dumb" shit back in 2010
Did you know there is overlap between dyslexia and autism?
Speaking for myself, communication and language is pretty damn hard. The act of having to recheck and verify all the time if its all correct makes my head spin. I can either accept that i do make tons of mistakes (including use of wrong words and mispronounced in spoken words) or i can save myself the stress and stop communicating in general.
Its not like you can write properly yourself as last i checked a sentence has to end in a point.
I might have dyslexia, but I started reading very early in kindergarten and back then, I found it easier to read, than I do now. I suspect, that I had injured my eyes some way, but the tests for the driving test were good, so you might be right.
Why did you decide to be an asshole today, to a person opening up and asking for help?
A quick perusal of comment history makes it seem more like a "day ending in y" kind of deal
Spelling is not the only indicator of academic intelligence and academic intelligence is not the only way of being intelligent
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