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Israel again massacres Palestinian civilians who had gathered to obtain humanitarian aid in Gaza (euromedmonitor.org)

submitted 5 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/17439723

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/17439722

Palestinian Territory – Israel’s army has again massacred Palestinian civilians who had gathered in Gaza to obtain humanitarian aid, targeting them with gunfire from helicopters, tanks, and drones near the Kuwait roundabout on the outskirts of Gaza City. This incident has resulted in over 60 deaths and 160 injuries, some of which are critical.

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[+] [email protected] -8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You people really believe this is the case? They bring the aid, wait for people to come and then kill bunch of them. Then they repeat this process weekly. You seriously think this is what's happening? So are inhabitants of Gaza stupid or have gold-fish memory? Naah, don't think about it bro. Israel bad mkay.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I understand the desire to believe that such a disgusting war crime isn't actually happening - that it's all propaganda. This kind of thing is sickening if it's true.

But I don't see any evidence that this isn't exactly what's happening, and with plenty of evidence that it is we cannot let it continue or offer any support to those who are carrying it out.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Hamas has been leading media war forever. Which is the reason why they don't care if civilians die because that makes Israel look bad. They said this themselves number of times. We've had the whole fiasco with bomb on parking lot where Hamas immediately blamed Israel and gave stupid number of casualties and it took months for independent review on the matter to prove it wrong. By that time everyone jumped on the wagon about Israel bombing hospital.

There are more than one example of this sickening behavior from Hamas. They are the torturers, slaughterers and rapists. And yet majority of people here refuses to believe they might be the one causing issues like these to make Israel look bad. It is actually unbelievable to me that you'd rather believe this is a trap set by Israel with aid where the moment people approach they start shooting, and people of Gaza keep coming back. Stretching your beliefs so hard to blame one party that it borders insanity.

Burden of proof is on the one making claims. Show a video of Israelis shooting on civilians. Everyone has a phone these days and yet not a single photo. Not a single video. We have videos where Hamas is beating civilians and chasing them away from aid. We sure have that, but then people come and say "ah that's photoshop" that's fake. There's NOTHING here. And yet everyone claims it's true.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Look, I hate Hamas plenty. They are definitely bad guys. They commit terror attacks against Israeli civilians, they use Palestinian civilians as human shields. I have never rooted for them.

But the rules of warfare are quite simple. You cannot under any circumstance deliberately kill civilians. Not if the enemy killed yours first. Not if the enemy uses their own as shields. Civilians are NEVER fair game.

This kind of shit separates the good guys from the bad guys. When Hamas slaughted 1,000 Israeli civilians they showed how bad they are, but Israel slaughtering 25,000+ Palestinian women and children is literally 25x worse.

There are no good guys here, other than the civilians who aren't choosing to participate in this conflict.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's the whole point. I simply can't accept this claim civilians are so stupid that they keep coming back for aid and keep getting killed. It's disgusting to insinuate this kind of thing. And while I do agree civilian deaths are never fair game, I can't but wonder how many of those 25k died because they were not allowed to move or migrate. Kind of how Hamas shot at people using humanitarian corridor to move away from north. Or how they shot at people trying to leave hospitals and other buildings.

I am finding it disgusting that people are sitting and pointing fingers at Israel and others. You know what would have prevented 100% of those 25k victims, not attacking on october 7th. Or any previous occasion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Genocide Denial is a bad look especially when it's happening right in front of your face. People are pointing fingers at Israel because Israel is commiting genocide.

The Palestinian people aren't stupid, they are desperate, because they are under attack by the IDF and their allies.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

Israel should be sanctioned like North Korea until they stop their genocide.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

And there are still people denying this is a genocide.

I heard a really interesting interview on NPR with Ofer Cassif, the head of an Israeli socialist party who just survived impeachment. He advocates for South Africa's genocide ICC case. But what was more interesting to me was how he was talking about how Netanyahu is using this as an excuse to turn Israel into a dictatorship, something he already tried with his attempt to reform their supreme court.

https://www.npr.org/2024/01/13/1224635827/israeli-lawmaker-on-the-u-n-genocide-case-against-israel

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