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Can I use my german passport to travel to USA or do I use my US passport?

And if I lived and worked in germany my whole life and never in the USA and never filed taxes can I enter USA without problems?

I just found out I am us citizen a few years ago don't ask why but I'm 34 and recently traveled to US with my german passport and they were all like "wtf where is your passport" and I'm like: "Here.." and they "Yeah your american passport?!" and I'm "I'm german" and he is like: "Dude you are born on american ground you are american!"

Well they let me travel in to the states without american passport but told me to go to the embassy as soon as I arrive back in germany or else I won't be able to enter USA again.

That being said, I done that. Now I have my american passport. But do I show both passports or only US passport? And after doing my research I found out americans file taxes every year. I haven't done it the last 18 years of working. Should I just not file? I will never work in the USA and I will never live in the USA. Or will I get problems at the airport? Can they see I don't file?

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (8 children)

If you will never live in the US, you should renounce your citizenship. This will be permanent and irrevocable, so consider it wisely. This eliminates any issue with not filing taxes while working overseas.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

The US does not recognize dual citizenship if you are a US citizen then you must use your US passport to enter the country.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

Researching around this cause I thought it was interesting, certainly not an expert. Apparently your case is considered an "accidental American" and you can probably search for others in your scenario. The IRS has a tax treaty with Germany that should be able to help you reduce (or maybe eliminate) your tax burden.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/tax-implications-dual-citizenship-what-you-need-know-daniel-morris-jfxle https://www.irs.gov/businesses/international-businesses/united-states-income-tax-treaties-a-to-z

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago (3 children)

You should file for taxes. It's highly likely you don't actually owe any money. There's probably an expat community in Germany that can help you out with finding someone familiar with US tax law without going to the US.

If you somehow owe taxes it could be a problem, but I really doubt that is the case.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Always enter and exit the US with your US passport. Not doing so is illegal.

For anything else, use your German passport, especially in the EU. That's what I have been doing for years.

I don't know if it is an issue for immigration, but you absolutely are required to file taxes every year and can get in trouble if you don't. There's a "streamlined procedure" that you can do if you've never filed taxes to start filing without incurring any fines or penalties.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

according to US law it's illegal as a citizen not to enter with your US passport.

I'm also dual with Australia and never travel on my US passport.

[–] [email protected] 91 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Leave Germany either your German passport. Enter the US with your US passport. Leave US with you US passport. Re-enter Germany with your German passport. Easy. Unless you are very wealthy the IRS aren’t going to come looking for you on a short stay.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I agree. This is what I do. Carry both in case that ask for the other.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You can renounce your citizenship.

Or you can just hire a tax preparer to figure out your situation. See if they can consult with you virtually.

Apparently you’re still on the hook for all your taxes. But recently there were limits for the first $100k you earn, so you might owe nothing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

For earned income overseas, US grants a credit for income tax payed to a foreign government. So if you live overseas and work a job, and the country you live in has higher taxes than the US, you can end up owing no US tax. But you still have to file the tax return every year.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

@[email protected] just file your missing years and include a letter explaining your situation and contact info.

Some paper clerk will pass it onto their supervisor who will pass it onto their supervisor who might send an auto generated letter or give you a phone call.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

For entering and exiting the US you should have a US passport and travel using it. Bring your German passport with you for proof of citizenship once you enter Germany. It's basically your visa, and dictates if you can enter the country and the permitted duration of stay. Passports are complicated, always do your research before travelling, or just call your carrier.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I thought traveling with 2 passports was a big no-no?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I can imagine that some authorities might find it suspicious, but in OPs case, it is necessary to travel with both passports to have the least hassle.

Entering the US with your German passport or returning to Germany with your US passport if you have both will lead to a lot of questions as you won't have the necessary visa in those passports.

Edit: Although I wouldn't present both passports at the same time, only the one that is applicable or more convenient for wherever you are.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

I worked as a check in agent in Australia for 2 years and we had zero issues with people carrying two passports with them. I've dealt with flights regarding Melbourne, Singapore, Sydney, Doha, Kuala Lumpur, LAX, Ottawa and others, none of which I can recall anyone being pulled aside for carrying a second passport.

That said I'm not a border security officer, and it's best to check with your origin/destination's border security website, because I don't know if that is an issue in some port I'm not familiar with.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Me too. I’ve heard a story from a friend who did that (Aus, UK) and had guns pulled on him in Singapore for it followed by being pulled aside while an investigation ensued.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think the US you have to use your American one if you have it, no?

A lot of countries have that rule.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Recently got Canadian citizenship and it seems to be the case there also.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago

The US passport should probably be enough, as it shows that your are a US citizen, so free passage into US soil I think

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