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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (13 children)

Mandatory military service is slavery. Do not give up your freedom, do not serve corrupted governments and politician. Fight for justice not against it.

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/emma-goldman-preparedness-the-road-to-universal-slaughter

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (5 children)

What about compulsory education, is that imprisonment then?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (6 children)

That’s not uncommon in countries with universal military service. Israel does this, and I think Finland and Singapore might as well. Sweden’s limited conscription (it’s a lottery, and you get to decline, though unless you have a strongly held conviction to do so, it’s a breach of jantelagen to do so) is also unisex, IIRC, which I suspect is more what the Danish model will look like than the IDF.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

A (de facto) lottery was what made Germany suspend conscription because only pulling in a fraction of each cohort was considered a breach of equality.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Finland

Norway, not Finland. Women have a duty to serve but so few are called up that it's kind of voluntary in practice.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

At least in Finland you can voluntarily join the army as a woman, but the military service is only mandatory for men, so it's not equal.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (7 children)

Same for Denmark, at least back when I last checked in 2018.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's the typical phrasing of social pressures to not stand out in Scandinavia, drawing from a book where the author phrases the "rules" somewhat as a legal code. Tall poppy syndrome is an overlapping idea that might be more familiar to English speakers.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

This is a great step forward for equality

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

What a step, everyone should be a slave with no discrimination of sex

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Slave to the state

The best way to become a slave to a state is not to have a good defense. Just ask any neighbor af Russia.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Brainless serving in an army is not defense. People can defend themself better when they are free not when they are forced to obey corrupted rulers orders.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Real equality is the state demanding you get in that fucking trench

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I'm not sure if Denmark is one of those but for some states there's unfortunately little choice. Not like we in Finland want to be next to Russia. But only men having to serve is an obvious equality issue.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I’m not sure if Denmark is one of those but for some states there’s unfortunately little choice.

There's plenty of choice that doesn't involve giving up your rights and become a slave to an authoritarian government. Such as voting for people who's goal is to help people and not exploit them, or fight against and not support corrupted politicians.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Telle, what other choice do the Ukrainians have other than fighting? Or do you mean the Denmark government as authoritarian government?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

How does me voting for "people who’s goal is to help people and not exploit them" going to make Russia any less of a shitty and threatening neighbor?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Rulers and governments don't care about people, they care about profits and wealth. Pretty much all the west is in commercial partnership with countries arming russia like china. It's more profitable for them to keep making business with dictatorships like Emirates and building weapons rather than working toward peace and against other corrupted governments

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (10 children)

I really don't understand what you are saying or offering as an alternative here.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

But don’t you think only women being the only ones in charge of giving birth to the next generation is an obvious equality issue, too?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Well, we can't change that with legislation but we can change who gets conscripted

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like something a crazy dictator would do.

Everyone will now be able to have children for the glorious motherland

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

What a softie. A real dictator would say something like

Everyone is now required to give birth for the glorious motherland, and those that refuse will be shot as traitors.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Average Putin moment

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