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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (21 children)

How likely is she to be elected there in the next decade ? Would be quite ironic to have the officer who removed the today to welcome her in a decade

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I'm out of the loop, what is she doing these days? How does she make a living?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (3 children)

She wrote a book that has a lot of reviews in Amazon. Arguably, that's probably enough to allow her to continue doing activism for the time being.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Full time political activist is a legit job. But she's only 21, at this age many people are student and don't make any money

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (11 children)

Greta has become mostly irrelevant since she got caught up in the generic SJW protest movement.

She has even protested new wind powerplants.

Had she stayed an environmental activist she would still be relevant.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm involved in various leftist causes and see this shit so often. Like you feel like you need to be a "thought leader" instead of just staying in your lane. Or organizations just get taken over by people who have completely antithetical agendas.

For instance I was somewhat involved in our local DSA chapter for a few years after Bernie and I'm still on the email list. They just sent out a email about organizing a "queer and transgender prom" but that in order to attend you would have to have proof of up-to-date covid vaccination.

  1. Now don't get me wrong, queer and transgender proms are great if you're into proms, but what does it have to do with democratic socialism?

  2. Why on earth is the DSA the organization that is still flying the Moderna flag in 2024? Everybody else has given up on their mostly ineffective vaccines years ago. Also last I checked Big Pharma are the bad guys!

One of the things that excited me about Bernie and groups like DSA originally is that they seemed to serve as a new and revitalized economic left focused on salient issues and rejecting identity politics. I remember one of the rally cries was "racial politics are class politics." But now they're basically just yet another moveon.org or something.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

That is basically how I feel as well, it is fine to just focus on one thing, you don't have to do all at once.

I wish you all the best.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Wow I hate that people like you exist. Please get fucking bent

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

You hate people who disagree with you in a niche subject?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

how DARE she have a nuanced opinion on the matter!!1!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Her dabbling in things like the Near-East conflict absolutely hurt her cause. It's generally not a good idea to fragment something that you're fighting for.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

That is a fair take, just as I don't have to like it

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Respecting the rights and land of indigenous people is not protesting wind power.

Just because you don't agree with her opinions on neo-nazis and Sami people doesn't mean all of her opinions are suddenly wrong.

This latest protest is especially relevant, because the current government in Sweden doesn't believe in climate change and is actively trying to violate Sweden's international climate obligations.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Wait what is her opinion on neo-nazis?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (5 children)

I never claimed that her oppinions were all wrong, she could just have stayed outside the discussion and kept focus on the environmental issues.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Climate change is an ecological, social and economical issue. You cannot reduce it to either dimension.

And you cannot solve climate change without adressing the social injustices in our societies that are excarberated by climate change, in the same way you cannot keep the economy afloat without adressing climate change.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Climate change is the absolute most critical issue humanity faces today.

It has to take priority over everything else.

This means building nuclear powerplants as soon as possible to enable us to close coal, gas and oil plants, it means building winmills on indegious land if that is the best place to build them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You're absolutely right and don't deserve the animosity you're getting in this thread.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Thank you, I mean no disrespect to anyone who are fighting for a just cause, but activism dilution is absolutely a thing I see with regards to Greta

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

It's not that big of a deal

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (6 children)

You don't know what you're talking about.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

How about we tear down your home and neighborbood and build a windfarm over it? You will also not be compensated in any way or enough. I accept no arguments here, this is literally what you're saying is okay to do to someone else.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That is not what anyone has suggested we should do to indegious people and their homes. This type of strawman arguments are extremely counter-productive.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Exactly, this is what I mean.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

So far, I have not heard that they were going to tare down the houses to build the wind farm, do you have a source about that?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (3 children)

holy fuck I can smell the crusty cumsocks under your bed from here.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Why go around attacking strangers on the Internet?

If you're having issues see a therapist, don't take it out on other people.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Are you a mod?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

You know nothing about me, apart from me finding Greta mostly irrrelevant, yet you seem to think that you know everything about me, and have started insulting me.

This is dumb, I get that we have a disagreement, but you don't have to insult me.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Don't remember the context, and don't want to defend Greta, but windmills can be very bad for the environment if done wrong. Hell, everything can be bad for the environment if done wrong.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I am not complaining about windmills as a concept, I like them, they look cool, I just brought it up as a reason why Greta is hypocritical.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Right, so you’re biased and full of it. Got it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Everyone has biases, anyone claiming not to are lying, I will absolutely admit that I am biased in some ways, I also try to recognize my bias and when it affects me and others negatively and try to compensate.

I don't see you doing that.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Two officers lifted Thunberg and dragged her away before putting her down on the ground about 20 metres away from the door she had been obstructing.

Thunberg and dozens of other environmental campaigners started blocking the main entrances to Sweden’s parliament on Monday in a sit-down protest against the effects of the climate crisis and what they said was political inaction.

The activists left on Monday afternoon but returned to protest again on Tuesday morning.

Thunberg, 21, became the face of youth climate activism as her weekly protests, which started in 2018 in front of the Swedish parliament, quickly grew into a global movement with large rallies across continents.

Last year she was detained by police or removed from protests in countries including Sweden, Norway and Germany.

A British court last month acquitted her of charges of a public order offence as a judge ruled that police had no power to arrest her and others at a protest in London last year.


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